originally posted by: WUNK22
The world needs ditch diggers too, this pig of a mom is just laying the foundation. I’m for smaller government but it seems license requirements for
being a parent would be good.
A eugenics revival is inevitable and probably right at our doorstep.
That's very concerning because the way it's implemented and it's ideology are critical to determining if we are to live in a future of liberty or
I very much want liberty, because tyranny simply will not work out positively for anyone.
So instead of living in denial and resisting the inevitable future eugenics movements, which would be futile because I don't think anyone will support
the position that "idiots should breed as much as possible because we need to increase squalor" or whatever - we need to take this bull by the
As intelligent human beings who can utilize critical thinking skills, the onus is upon us to develop a theory of eugenics that is practical,
productive, effective, and focused on protecting the rights of everyone. I want to avoid that dystopian future where everyone including me is violated
by an oppressive government.
So the question you need to ask yourself is "how can we implement eugenics over a 100 year period incrementally so as to protect the rights of all
peoples while also solving these very real problems?".
Instead of forcing licenses for parenting or child bearing, which will be a nightmarish situation that the government could abuse to no end - perhaps
we should focus more on fixing our education system and facilitating a world where people are willing to choose not to have those children until they
become responsible enough to rear them properly?
One of the most complicated problems is how are we going to deal with issues like genetic deformities? This presents incredibly challenging moral
questions and it is NOT easy to solve.
For example most cases of Down syndrome are not hereditary, but some are. If we have a situation where we know the chances of a child being born with
it are 99%+, what is the correct solution? Is it even a problem? Is it fair to call this a genetic deformity and to suggest that the human race
collectively needs to "solve it"? How will we solve it?
Do you really want to live in a world where the government says "you're deformed, you cannot have babies"? How do you educate someone with a learning
disability that it's in everyone's best interests that they choose not to have a child? Human emotions and feelings are incredibly powerful, and it
will be easy for people to feel ostracized and singled out as a freak - and we gotta avoid that.
Add into it that most cases of Down syndrome occur in the reproductive systems of seemingly normal healthy people, has to be caught very early on, and
could theoretically be prevented if action is taken early enough.
So we need to figure this out. It's incredibly complex as there are so many different situations. It goes beyond morals and ethics, because it
involves politics, economics, society and culture, religion, law, science, etc. The whole gamut of the human experience.
Here is an example of that complexity - let's assume that we continue to quickly develop genetic science and gene therapy. Do we collectively want
designer babies? Is this a valid work-around to issues like the Down syndrome issue expressed above?
What happens when people genetically engineer "superior humans" ? Ones that are physically far better equipped than us "normal humans" today? This
begs the questions of Transhumanism.
It's difficult because what you want and what I want may be very different visions of the future, and we have human rights issues to deal with in
determining a course of action on how to implement some form of collective agreement as a civilization.
I won't even get into future cybernetics or any of that stuff. It would be a digression.
Anyways, though my post is very limited in scope and I really didn't do it justice, I hope that it at least gives everyone an idea of how incredibly
challenging a thought process this difficult issue presents, why it's one of the biggest problems we as a species face.
No one has all the answers, so my message to others is that you must use all of your brainpower here and be very skeptical and think deeply. If no
meteor comes and obliterates Earth making us extinct - this issue will need to be dealt with eventually. So can we please have the smart people figure
it out first so we can all maintain liberty while addressing these types of issues?