The Flat Earth "conspiracy" and a glaring error by those who suppport it...

a reply to: turbonium1

Well, at least you're entertaining. A confirmed troll now, but entertaining.
When you post actual facts can you display a sign somewhere, so that we know that you're being serious for once?

originally posted by: SolAquarius

originally posted by: turbonium1



Gravity - a theater of great absurdities, as if reality, fact, as a science....

These scientists have spoken about gravity as if it's established fact...while they're all aware it's absolute garbage!





More and more we find that science is used to HIDE the truth.

A theory like gravity is not about finding the truth, or facts, or knowledge, or proof.

Sad.

So in the flat earth model what is the force that keeps people from floating off the surface and banging their head into the dome?

I believe they call it "Down"

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: turbonium1

So no proof.

Not that anyone expected you to provide any. Because, well, you can't.

It was proven that the Earth is very round, if not quite perfectly round, by the use of simple math many centuries ago.

It was proven round by the sailors who have, over the years, sailed east to west, or west to east, and come back to their starting point. They're, all those thousands upon thousands, lying.

Of course, they are. /sarc

It's proven by constellations visible in the northern polar latitudes, but not in the Southern, likewise by Southern polar constellations visible in the Southern polar regions but not in the northern.

Though, I suppose anyone who professes to believe that there were no manned moon landings would profess to believe the Earth is flat, contrary to all the confirmed evidence to the contrary.

That's the exact same problem I had with all flat Earth arguments, too!!

Why would we be able to go from Shanghai, to Seattle, then to NYC, and to London, then Moscow, and back to Shanghai, if it wasn't a round Earth?

If the Earth was flat, we couldn't fly around the world....yes?


The solution -

Earth is supposedly a sphere - North pole and South pole.

East and West go around the middle part(s) of it, under the North pole, above the South pole.

Spheres do not have any sort of 'top' or 'bottom', 'North' or 'South' poles, with hemispheres.

What is North on a globe? South? Where is the middle of a sphere?

A sphere has infinite middles, and tops, and bottoms, obviously.

Our 'sphere' has just one top, one bottom, separated in half?


Two magnetic points on a humongous ball, of course!!




True North has only one, single point of reference.

Only on a surface with a center point, of course.


North is the absolute center point on Earth.

All outward from the center point is South.

That's how a compass works - a true, fixed center.

Which means Shanghai eastward is actually going around in a huge circle.



That's how it all works.

The actual measurements in planes have proven the Earth is flat.


But if you prefer claptrap theories that don't even exist, instead of hard evidence... go right ahead.

a reply to: turbonium1

while nobody has ever seen it as 'curving' slightly, when viewed at long distances....

That’s just false.

Theodolites show a curve at long distances.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: turbonium1

while nobody has ever seen it as 'curving' slightly, when viewed at long distances....

That’s just false.

Theodolites show a curve at long distances.

What distance? Any actual measurements?

It's very scientific, just no actual measurements, okay?

a reply to: turbonium1

The actual measurements in planes have proven the Earth is flat.

No they don’t. What has been proven (in this thread) is you don’t understand how planes work.

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: turbonium1

while nobody has ever seen it as 'curving' slightly, when viewed at long distances....

That’s just false.

Theodolites show a curve at long distances.

What distance? Any actual measurements?

It's very scientific, just no actual measurements, okay?

Over and sea that you can see the horizon. You will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS have the crosshairs over the horizon. If the Earth was flat, the crosshairs would be above, below and on the horizon, but they’re ALWAYS over the horizon.

a reply to: turbonium1

But if you prefer claptrap theories that don't even exist, instead of hard evidence

Show your “hard evidence” that the Earth is flat. Unless you’re being a hypocrite, thatvis.

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: turbonium1

while nobody has ever seen it as 'curving' slightly, when viewed at long distances....

That’s just false.

Theodolites show a curve at long distances.

What distance? Any actual measurements?

It's very scientific, just no actual measurements, okay?

Over and sea that you can see the horizon. You will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS have the crosshairs over the horizon. If the Earth was flat, the crosshairs would be above, below and on the horizon, but they’re ALWAYS over the horizon.

There is a horizon! A theodolite shows crosshairs are above the horizon. Every time.

Now, that's obviously because of Earth's curvature, isn't it??!


No.


Curvature of Earth is supposedly 8 inches per mile squared.

Show me where 8 inches per mile squared is proven here.....if you can.

A curvature you can't even measure!!

a reply to: turbonium1

Yeah, ignore everything that proves a curve and go on with your rants.

If you really believe what you're typing, I feel sorry for you, I really do. It must be hard to not understand the most basic of things.....like planes.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: turbonium1

But if you prefer claptrap theories that don't even exist, instead of hard evidence

Show your “hard evidence” that the Earth is flat. Unless you’re being a hypocrite, thatvis.

The instrument measurements on all planes are the hard evidence of a flat Earth.

It's conclusive evidence.


Prove it otherwise, if you can.

If not, you have nothing to argue here.

a reply to: turbonium1

The instrument measurements on all planes are the hard evidence of a flat Earth.

No they don't. It's been explained to you multiple times, you just ignore it.

It's conclusive evidence.

It really isn't. It's just evidence that you don't understand how planes work.

Prove it otherwise, if you can.

-Theodolites
-North Star, Southern Cross and other stars that change positiion in the sky (and go below the horizon) depending on your latitude.
-Eclipses
-Shadow and stick experiment

Still waiting on your evidence that the Earth is flat. Not "Omagerd! I don't git how dows planes flying! World muzt be da flaht!"

Planes fly level, mostly...right?

The altitude stays the same, mostly...right?


And the planes eventually land down from that very same altitude....right?


Get it?

originally posted by: turbonium1
Planes fly level, mostly...right?

The altitude stays the same, mostly...right?


And the planes eventually land down from that very same altitude....right?


Get it?

Already been explained to you over and over again. You just keep ignoring it.

Get a theodolite and you can see for yourself the Earth has a curve.

Could you prove that all planes fly in a constant rate of descent, instead of at a level flight?


Not a chance.


And you surely know why not..

a reply to: turbonium1

Could you prove that all planes fly in a constant rate of descent, instead of at a level flight?

Level flight relative to the ground it's flying over. There's this little thing called GRAVITY that explains all that.

You seem to think this is some holy grail for flat earth, but really it's not. Just like you thinking the Apollo landing was a hoax because you couldn't tell the difference between a hand and a glove LOL.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: turbonium1

Could you prove that all planes fly in a constant rate of descent, instead of at a level flight?

Level flight relative to the ground it's flying over.

You seem to think this is some holy grail for flat earth, but really it's not. Just like you thinking the Apollo landing was a hoax because you couldn't tell the difference between a hand and a glove LOL.

You have no idea what level flight means, or how level flight is achieved. If you do know, then you are simply living in denial.


Level flight means the plane is neither in ascent, nor in descent.

It has nothing to do with being level to the ground below.

Here's a video on the VSI ...

www.youtube.com...


The VSI measures pressure around the plane, measuring a level flight from pressure balancing.

Not difficult to grasp, is it?

a reply to: turbonium1

You have no idea what level flight means, or how level flight is achieved.

Says the person who thinks the world is flat

Have your gone and bought/made and tested a theodolite yet?

Gravity explains everything, that's why it was invented in the first place!!

In this case, gravity, our magical, non-existent phenomenon, will hold all planes to follow it's 'curvature', while the planes instruments measure it as 'level flight'.

Planes descend with Earth's curvature, not even measuring a descent. Only 'GRAVITY' knows how it's done!!


It doesn't level with a mountain range, or a canyon, though. Just with 'curvature'!


Thanks for a good laugh.