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At a Navajo veterans' event, Trump makes 'Pocahontas' crack

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posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 07:00 AM
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Some people will defend him no matter what, they have too much invested to admit what is happening.

It's the same with all politics though.




posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 07:04 AM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

So what you are saying is that we should normalize his behavior and accept it since it won't change?


Are you saying you are going to spend the next 7 years in this constant state of political anxiety just because the stuff we know he will say is actually said?

When that man has access to our country's nuclear launch codes, it's kind of hard not to have a twinge of anxiety at all times in the back of your head. I'm normally a very level headed and stress free individual, but Trump tries my patience time and again with his antics.


Your question is kind of dangerous, to be honest. We have normalized far, far worse behavior in our politicians. Why is Trumps abrasiveness really worthy of distinction in a world where our entire legislative branch has been accused of various sexual crimes? Dudes got some words you don't like...and your hair bursts into flames.

Hyperbole much? I can think of 2 or 3 congressmen who have been accused of crimes. I can't think of any sitting Congressmen who are guilty of them though (at least proven). I CAN think of a person currently running for the Senate, that Trump is endorsing I might add, who has been accused of pedophilia. Is that acceptable to you? Should that be normalized?


Honestly, I don't like Trump. But watching the response of "The Resistance" types makes having him in office worth its comedic value.

It sure is fun to laugh at the people freaking out while the bus you all are in is driving over a cliff and not actually do anything to correct the situation, right?
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posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 07:06 AM
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Wow...I mean...WOW! Dang, did he really have to say that!?!? He could have held off on that one. Wow.



posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 08:39 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

The sky isn't falling. Hyperbole isn't pointing out that there are accusations of sexual deviancy in the legislative branch. Hyperbole is claiming that, at any minute, Trump could end us all. That we are on a bus going over a cliff (ok, we are on a bus going over a cliff....but thats been from long before Trump).

Lets be honest: you don't like Trump, and will jump on board any outrage that runs through the cycle in regards to him. Its not the disrespect towards the Navajo that you are concerned with.

FWIW, you didn't simply "ask a question". You framed an answer with a question mark. Thats not asking a question, its putting words in peoples mouths.

And i would also contend that no one need to, or will, hold Trump accountable for his words other than people who just don't like him and are responding to the call to arms against him. His words are meaningless. His actions are all that matters. Forgetting this point is what has allowed countless iterations of presidents prior to get away with doing nothing that they promise. Trump is no different, but that is beside the point. This is simply a sideshow with extra hand wringing.



posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 08:45 AM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Krazysh0t

The sky isn't falling. Hyperbole isn't pointing out that there are accusations of sexual deviancy in the legislative branch. Hyperbole is claiming that, at any minute, Trump could end us all. That we are on a bus going over a cliff (ok, we are on a bus going over a cliff....but thats been from long before Trump).

This: "distinction in a world where our entire legislative branch has been accused of various sexual crimes" is hyperbole. Our entire legislative branch has NOT been accused of various sexual crimes.


Lets be honest: you don't like Trump, and will jump on board any outrage that runs through the cycle in regards to him. Its not the disrespect towards the Navajo that you are concerned with.

Now who is putting words in people's mouths?


FWIW, you didn't simply "ask a question". You framed an answer with a question mark. Thats not asking a question, its putting words in peoples mouths.

And i would also contend that no one need to, or will, hold Trump accountable for his words other than people who just don't like him and are responding to the call to arms against him. His words are meaningless. His actions are all that matters. Forgetting this point is what has allowed countless iterations of presidents prior to get away with doing nothing that they promise. Trump is no different, but that is beside the point. This is simply a sideshow with extra hand wringing.


His words are NOT meaningless. His words can crash the economy being that they come from the President. Even his most benign remarks have more weight behind them than anything you or I would say. Do not trivialize his words. Demeanor, speech, and professionalism is JUST as important to being a good President as quality actions.



posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: TinySickTears

My grandmother is native. I don't feel offended by this.

What I felt was shame.
Shame for my country.
Shame for my gender.
Shame for my race.

I really wish this guy wasn't representing me to the world....

Before you guys try to defect I have felt this way about the last 3 presidents so...



posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 08:48 AM
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posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody


Who is0" him" and what do I want "him" to do? Because I didn't ask anyone to do anything. All I did was voice an opinion on the magnitude of ignorance and tastelessness of Trump's actions and the hypocritical comments by people posting in this thread. I find it hilarious how so many people on ATS defend, look away or laugh at things Trump does.

But if some so called "liberal" were to do anything remotely similar, there are a whole lot of people here who would be calling for their heads because everyone is blind and running amok with extreme partisanship thinking that there's a difference between Democrats and Republicans when they're all funded by lobbyists, special interest groups and Wall Street consortiums.

But please... carry on with putting words in my mouth because it's easier than addressing the fact that we've got an infant sitting behind his desk in the Oval Office and he's either a blatant imbecile for standing in front of a portrait of Jackson, perpetrator of genocide against Native Americans, while half assed honoring 2 men who had the balls Trump couldn't buy with his daddy's money if heis draft dodging ass wanted to.



posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 09:43 AM
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In other words, more people need to be standing up and holding Trump accountable for his words.

I agree wholeheartedly. Did warren claim to be native american? Is she actually native american? If she is not, good for trump on calling her out. Is warren not the worlds best example of cultural appropriation?



posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 09:47 AM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: smurfy
His reference was benign, imo.



Come off it, d'yuh think my names Lamb?
Everybody knows his reference to Elizabeth Warren was no 'accident' She was the one who was thought to be an interim director for the ConsumerWatchdog...but it didn't happen, someone else was appointed, not that it mattered since Trump now exercised his privilege and appointed Mick Mulvaney, who is only there to close it up...but of course the whole ploy is just to end another Obama incentive as well.
I suppose because the agency was going after payday loansharks who are making a bomb, that didn't go down well with some greedy movers and shakers. Trump draining the swamp eh? ...more like he's making it even bigger, maybe he even has a finger in the pie, what a creep.



posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 09:49 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Krazysh0t




In other words, more people need to be standing up and holding Trump accountable for his words.

I agree wholeheartedly. Did warren claim to be native american? Is she actually native american? If she is not, good for trump on calling her out. Is warren not the worlds best example of cultural appropriation?

Was talking about Warren at that event necessary? Was she there? Did she have some baring on their award? No. To all of those things. The fact that Trump even brought her up in the first place, regardless if his claims have merit or not, is what is wrong. Sheesh... It's sad that you see nothing wrong with that.



posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Krazysh0t

The sky isn't falling. Hyperbole isn't pointing out that there are accusations of sexual deviancy in the legislative branch. Hyperbole is claiming that, at any minute, Trump could end us all. That we are on a bus going over a cliff (ok, we are on a bus going over a cliff....but thats been from long before Trump).

This: "distinction in a world where our entire legislative branch has been accused of various sexual crimes" is hyperbole. Our entire legislative branch has NOT been accused of various sexual crimes.


Seems even the scum in question can't quantify it: Lawmakers: We don't know how widespread sexual harassment is on The Hill



Lets be honest: you don't like Trump, and will jump on board any outrage that runs through the cycle in regards to him. Its not the disrespect towards the Navajo that you are concerned with.

Now who is putting words in people's mouths?


Tit for tat is weak. I voiced an opinion based on dozens of posts. Ill actually go a step further: the complaint about the Navajo vets is simply finding a new way to use and dishonor them to further a political agenda against DJT. The complaints about DJT's behavior have put the complainers in the same boat as DJT: capitalizing on their ceremony to score cheap political points.



His words are NOT meaningless. His words can crash the economy being that they come from the President. Even his most benign remarks have more weight behind them than anything you or I would say. Do not trivialize his words. Demeanor, speech, and professionalism is JUST as important to being a good President as quality actions.


Trump calling Warren by the name "Pocahontas" is not going to impact the markets. Please.



posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

He's got a shrewd sense of humor, speaks of the cuff, and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt while this never-ending back & forth Game of Troll with the media /politician Establishment Triggerables is pathologically hard wired into he and they at this point. And you too since you went full SJW this summer.

I know you prefer your politicians completely FAKE, whom speak entirely thru teleprompters, but that's not Trumpy bear.




posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 09:56 AM
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originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: shooterbrody


Who is0" him" and what do I want "him" to do? Because I didn't ask anyone to do anything. All I did was voice an opinion on the magnitude of ignorance and tastelessness of Trump's actions and the hypocritical comments by people posting in this thread. I find it hilarious how so many people on ATS defend, look away or laugh at things Trump does.

But if some so called "liberal" were to do anything remotely similar, there are a whole lot of people here who would be calling for their heads because everyone is blind and running amok with extreme partisanship thinking that there's a difference between Democrats and Republicans when they're all funded by lobbyists, special interest groups and Wall Street consortiums.

But please... carry on with putting words in my mouth because it's easier than addressing the fact that we've got an infant sitting behind his desk in the Oval Office and he's either a blatant imbecile for standing in front of a portrait of Jackson, perpetrator of genocide against Native Americans, while half assed honoring 2 men who had the balls Trump couldn't buy with his daddy's money if heis draft dodging ass wanted to.


So if a poorly executed political joke gets you this upset, how upset were you when you found out warren lied and claimed to be native american purely for political gain when she is not?
Also please point out to me how the Navajo were effected by the Indian Removal Act which CONGRESS passed and Jackson signed as POTUS?



posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
Seems even the scum in question can't quantify it: Lawmakers: We don't know how widespread sexual harassment is on The Hill

I'm not saying it isn't a problem or anything, just that you used hyperbole.


Tit for tat is weak. I voiced an opinion based on dozens of posts. Ill actually go a step further: the complaint about the Navajo vets is simply finding a new way to use and dishonor them to further a political agenda against DJT. The complaints about DJT's behavior have put the complainers in the same boat as DJT: capitalizing on their ceremony to score cheap political points.

"It is ok for me to call you out for putting words in my mouth, but you aren't allowed to do the same to me. I'm 100% allowed to assume your intentions, but dammit don't assume mine!" Sorry. That's all I heard from you when I read that paragraph just now.


Trump calling Warren by the name "Pocahontas" is not going to impact the markets. Please.

That wasn't the point I was making and you know it.



posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

"BUT BUT BUT OBAMA!"

I knew it was a matter of time before this was dragged back out of the closet.



posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

I would have played you a Bush clip but it wouldnt trigger you into "BUT BUT BUT OBAMA!".



posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 10:06 AM
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Was talking about Warren at that event necessary?

So it is back to "I don't like what he says or does"?
Without knowing what was said to these gentlemen without the microphone in front of trump, you have no idea what was "necessary" or not. Perhaps the gentlemen themselves brought up warren. There were portions of their conversation on video with no audio.
Trump made a bad joke, but what warren did (which you refuse to acknowledge) is much much worse.



posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I would have played you a Bush clip but it wouldnt trigger you into "BUT BUT BUT OBAMA!".



If you hurry, there's still time for the But, But, Hillary clever retort. That one always works well....



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posted on Nov, 28 2017 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody


Trump made a bad joke, but what warren did (which you refuse to acknowledge) is much much worse.

Trump also held this meeting with a giant picture of Andrew Jackson hanging on the wall in front of the Navajos. That's like honoring MLK while having a giant picture of David Duke staring at him.
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