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originally posted by: RoScoLaz5
originally posted by: wmd_2008 forced to learn at school, then forced to go to church
this was my early experience of religion and no doubt helped me decide to junk the whole concept.
not my bag.
Why do christians use their beliefs to push legislation through our government?
originally posted by: BStoltman
I began my personal journey in this life, believing in the "God" of the Bible. I read every word of the Bible, and took it so seriously that I even attained a mediocre ability to read the text in its original Hebrew & Greek Language. My journey into this turned me into an Atheist. Let me make this clear, The reading of the Bible literally turned me Atheist.
I have always wondered, if people who claim to be of a professed religious ideal actually read their own text. What makes you believe in a God if you do? I am honestly curious about it. An interesting video I saw that made me ponder this question again now was:
These notions are barely understood by the people who study them. The work that goes into the observations that become the theories, is mathematical formulas. The formulas are the theory. Not the explanations of what those theory may imply. This is a huge problem with trying to explain these formulas to lay people. It turns into metaphors and similes which do not properly describe the formulas. Therefor much of what people believe that science claims is simply a bad interpretation of the raw data, or just an attempt to get people interested in the ideas.
originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
I would like to see someone explain the fine tuning problem ie: Higgs Boson mass, cosmological constant etc, without invoking the unscientific strong anthropic principal and infinite universes to "explain" it.
Fine tuning in order so that this life we experience is made possible?
Must be a far flung throw the dice at the top of an infinite number of universes that didn't make it or that exist with different laws of physics but that remain forever hidden away.
Has anyone pointed out that to avoid the implication of an Architect, murdering science and scientific inquiry isn't the most rational thing to do?
Because religious people use their beliefs to enact legislation which becomes laws that you have to live by. A lot of their beliefs are based on untestable claims. Wouldn't you rather your laws be based on testable and repeatable observations? In my town I can't buy alcohol on Sundays, pawnshops are not allowed to be open on Sundays, religious groups petition our government to change the laws on abortion or free speech every year
originally posted by: usernameconspiracy
a reply to: BStoltman
I'm not an atheist per se, but I would expect that what I believe regarding "God" is a far leap from any religion, which makes me quite happy. That being said, why would I care what reasons anyone has to be a follower of any religion, of no religion, or is of the belief that there is no God? When it comes to religion, you do you, and I'll keep on doing what I'm doing.
originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: dfnj2015
Why would you accept those axioms though? Especially since many of the claims in the bible cannot be tested or can simply be shown to be impossible. Talking animals, jesus healing the blind and leperous? Walking on water, the dead rising from their graves. Amidst these claims, we know to be impossible, why would you accept them as true?
"If you try to get your hands on time, it's always slipping through your fingers," says Barbour. "People are sure time is there, but they can't get hold of it. My feeling is that they can't get hold of it because it isn't there at all."
originally posted by: Soylent Green Is People
a reply to: neutronflux
The "Golden Rule" does not depend on the existence of God. There is a clear Humanistic morality that exists with or without God.
I don't need to believe that God exists for me to know that humans should treat each other with respect and to value life.