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Athiests vs The Religious Conspiracy... Explain to Me Why Believers Believe.

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posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:41 PM
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originally posted by: thepixelpusher
God is a loving God. Sorry you misunderstood history and God's intentions.


Loving? That’s a joke, right?

Your god (according to your book) is a murderer, jealous, vindictive and a hypocrite.

Thanks for the laugh though! It also reminded me why I left being a Christian.

Loving? LOL




posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:50 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Think what you want. You are wrong. Sorry to hear you joined the dark side.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:52 PM
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a reply to: silo13

Mr. Reese!

Anyone watch Person of Interest?




posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:54 PM
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a reply to: thepixelpusher


You are wrong.


Not according to your religious book. But you’ll just ignore that and say I’m mistaken or wrong.

I used to live in ignorance. I mean, I used to be a Christian. Now I just have fun watching them sent what’s in their own religious book.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:59 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

You ARE misinterpreting things about the Bible. Many do not understand the Bible so you are in a large group. I feel sorry that you have misunderstood and think that God doesn't love you, but he does.
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posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: thepixelpusher

So I’m misunterpreting where your god KILLS people? (Already supplied plenty of evidence on the last page)

Let me guess. Your god doesn’t condone slavery either, even though it says it does in your religious book?

This is the ignorance I was talking about. You flat out deny your god does any wrong, even when it’s written in your own religious book.

For people not to see it was a book, written by men, to control men, is just laughable. The thing isn’t even original. It’s a collection of parts of other religions and “rules” to keep men in check (ESPECIALLY slaves).

But I’ll leave you to your ignorance. It’s clear you’re too indoctrinated to see your pretend god is a hypocrite.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 11:21 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

You seem to have made up your mind without knowing the Bible. Best wishes to you. I hope you find your Spirituality and come to know the love of God,



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 11:23 PM
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a reply to: thepixelpusher

Don’t worry, I won’t ever be a Christian again. Can’t stand hypocrites, so that means I can’t stand your god.

I’ll leave you alone. I’m sure you’ve got some more denial to do.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 11:27 PM
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originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: TerryDon79

You seem to have made up your mind without knowing the Bible. Best wishes to you. I hope you find your Spirituality and come to know the love of God,


What is there to "know"?

I read it. It says what it says

I'm so sick of all these Cafeteria Christians, picking and choosing what they want to believe/follow as if the Bible was a Golden Corral buffet.

If Christians were actual Christians, they wouldn't even refer to the OT anyway. So many "issues" in society today wouldn't even BE issues if they actually practiced what this Jesus character preached. He broke the old covenant, or whatever. Didn't he say it ended with him? The OT is irrelevant and shouldn't be looked to at all by any "real" Christian.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 03:26 AM
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originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: TerryDon79

You seem to have made up your mind without knowing the Bible. Best wishes to you. I hope you find your Spirituality and come to know the love of God,


Except your God is the biggest #fakenews around, the biggest hoax ever foisted upon humanity.


As for your Bible.

freethoughtnation.com...


Seriously, the Bible has caused more horror and trauma on this planet than practically any other text in history. The Koran/Quran, obviously, comes in a close second – although it’s right up there neck and neck as concerns body count, some 250 million allegedly murdered in the name of Christianity (if you count both World Wars as “Christian” aggressions), while some 270 million are claimed to have been killed in the name of Islam. As concerns looking at the Bible as some sort of “moral guide” from the very finger of God, it’s time to toss the whole shebang into the circular file, the trash heap, the dustbin of history.



The fact is that other than serving as a valuable cultural artifact on its face, the Bible is virtually useless in today’s modern society as concerns numerous subjects, including technology, science, medicine and, yes, philosophy and spirituality. Modern society is far ahead of the Stone Age technology and mentality found in the Bible. Trying to live by such an outdated and specious text is only making humanity deranged.


Yep, toss the trash into the trash.
edit on 6-12-2017 by bgerbger because: Religion is inane garbage.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 04:06 AM
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originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: TerryDon79

You seem to have made up your mind without knowing the Bible. Best wishes to you. I hope you find your Spirituality and come to know the love of God,


So what is your take on the other 2,999+ gods MAN created curious to know



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 07:33 AM
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originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: TerryDon79

You seem to have made up your mind without knowing the Bible. Best wishes to you. I hope you find your Spirituality and come to know the love of God,


So what is your take on the other 2,999+ gods MAN created curious to know


Your stance has weighed heavily in my mind. Especially in the context of the 9/11 forums. Just because there are many “theories” being pushed by entities for person gain does not mean there is not a fundamental truth. In fact, it seems the more fundamental the truth, the more those with corrupt mind and soul push against that truth.

Note, I understand what you are arguing. I am not accusing you of being corrupt.

But, let’s also put God aside to look at the real issues. How does your logic disprove the physical world is countered by a spiritual/supernatural world?



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 07:38 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

How many people have died as a result of communism? Were Asian wars based soulely on religion. Again, corruption is not inherent to religion. It’s inherent in man to manipulate governments, banking systems, landownership, financial institutions, and anything of power to obtain and keep power.
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posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 08:10 AM
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a reply to: bgerbger

You obviously never read the Bible. Man and sin causes pain and suffering, not the word of God. The word of God is the antidote to pain and suffering and a way to banish Demonic influences.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

"How many people have died as a result of communism?"

Millions, but the nefarious figures pale by comparison to the countless millions that have perished down to religious intolerance thought out recorded history.

"Again, corruption is not inherent to religion."

Then why all the control constructs and why do they ALWAYS want our monies?

"It’s inherent in man to manipulate governments, banking systems, landownership, financial institutions, and anything of power to obtain and keep power."

The church(Holy Roman Empire or applicable derivative) does indeed and has in the past owned plenty of land all over the globe. The Templars pretty much instituted what we would consider being the the modern form of banking, and help create the financial institutions we have today, as to power well trust me when i say they are neck deep in that department also.

You see the similarities?

It's not even about power per-say these days it's about maintaining the status quo.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Again, it’s mans ability to manipulate anything that will help that individual gain power.

Are you saying more people have died because of religious persecution? Let’s us use race for an example? How many cultures have believed in the same gods and religious fundamentals, but waged war and ethnic cleansing based on race?

Religious persecution has killed more people than communist USSR, WW II in Hilter’s pursuit of an aryan nation based on race, ethic cleansing, and false charges by kings of treason and rebellion to murder political opponents?

Country cubs, which some spirituality dead churches are noting more than, collect money for facilities? Are they out to rule the world?

I would say more people have been killed over racism, ethnic cleansing, and political opposition than religious persecution. Funny as the world turns more secular, we have the same problems.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 09:17 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

And don’t confuse times when ancient rulers were so powerful and murderous they were confused with being a god by the population. Those rules didn’t kill for religion, they killed to maintain power. Or they killed for religion of self.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Religion equates to power which is plain for anyone with an eye to see.

It also equates to serious racism and/or ethnic cleansing, this is pretty much a given as the factual evidence suggests.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: neutronflux

Religion equates to power which is plain for anyone with an eye to see.

It also equates to serious racism and/or ethnic cleansing, this is pretty much a given as the factual evidence suggests.


It is not true to say religion is the common denominator to the woes of the world,

True communism promotes lack of religion. How many murders were committed by communist Russian to thin out political opponents?

Atheists cannot not be racists?

Are you saying ethnic cleansing has never been solely because of race. Are you saying groups with the same religious beliefs never went to war solely over race?

Please provide what religious doctrine Hitler cited to wipe out the Jews and promote the Aryan nation as superior race?

Are most day to day murders convicted over drugs/money crimes vs religion?

Are you saying as the world becomes more secular man is better behaved?



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

I would not know mate, I'm not an atheist or a racist, nor do i subscribe to communism all through i do hold some socialist views and values.

Where have i allured that Hitler had anything to do with religion?

I will say though that The Hory Roman church of St Peter and also the Jesuit order was fully aware of the Nazi plan to wipe out the Jews and other undesirables and done nothing to prevent it, else why did they not speak up. So really that's just religious warfare via proxy, which is nothing new.

I'm not saying anything, but i hope as the world becomes more secular Humanity will come to her senses and stop killing one another over petty religious indifference.

Religion, however, is not the only issue we face as a race even if it is the most stupid.

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