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posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 07:47 PM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

and while you wrestle up the meaning of spooky you might consider Einsteins other discoveries you might call spooky .




posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 07:53 PM
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Einstein was a smart guy, and extremely accurate.

I often think of Einsteins relationship to Tesla, and am reminded of his words:


When Albert Einstein was asked how it felt to be the smartest man on Earth, he replied, “I wouldn’t know. Ask Nikola Tesla” It was short and to the point from Einstein.



posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 09:51 PM
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a reply to: Sapphire

Tesla was a very smart guy .Where about's in BC you from ? Last time I was out there I stayed in Parksville for a month .



posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 09:53 PM
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a reply to: Kapusta

Which Islamic teaching is that? From what I am seeing in the news, there are many varying facets of Islamic religion.



posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 10:04 PM
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a reply to: Kapusta

It's easy to come to terms with one's self, and, by doing so solve all of humanity's current problems; Follow Natural Law Principles: HARM NO OTHER, AND BY YOUR ACTIONS OR INACTIONS ALLOW NO OTHER TO BE HARMED.
It really is that simple.
Being a coward and delegating your accountability to another is, by action, immoral.
WHEN ONE SUFFERS WE ALL SUFFER. That is reality. Until that reality is KNOW by ALL, we will continue to suffer. One way or another...



posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 10:09 PM
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I'm a Yooper myself, that could possibly be considered a religion. We believe it will snow every winter and every summer will be no longer than thirty days long. We believe that everyone in this country is a little nuts, including ourselves. most of us take communion every morning, drinking a couple of cups of coffee to get to where we can deal with the world before doing anything else.

Pasties are the food of the gods..



posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 10:28 PM
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originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: Kapusta

Which Islamic teaching is that? From what I am seeing in the news, there are many varying facets of Islamic religion.


Salafiyyah? People like to associate salafiyyah with "salafi" or "Wahabi" however it's very much differnt from thoes two .

Essentially salafiyyah is taking all knowledge scripture. Hadith etc. Back to the Shaba. So they follow everything that can be authenticated through chains of narration .



posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 10:29 PM
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originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: Kapusta

Which Islamic teaching is that? From what I am seeing in the news, there are many varying facets of Islamic religion.


Salafiyyah? People like to associate salafiyyah with "salafi" or "Wahabi" however it's very much differnt from thoes two .

Essentially salafiyyah is taking all knowledge scripture. Hadith etc. Back to the Shaba. So they follow everything that can be authenticated through chains of narration .


Narration is man-made, the word of God is not. So, we have man narrating God's word, and as usual, it fails.



posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 10:30 PM
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originally posted by: TJames

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: TJames
a reply to: intrptr

Still you have nothing to verify anything woo though.
Nothing except personal testimony and why the # would I be swayed by assertions from an anonymous profile on a minor social media type discussion forum?
You got nothing except your own personal belief based on personal experience. Not good enough for me for obvious reasons.


Verification by internet, right. But like you said and I agree, you don't care.

I've posted nowhere that I didn't care, so either quote me or retract that please.


Read your own posts.


why the # would I be swayed by assertions from an anonymous profile on a minor social media type discussion forum?



posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 10:38 PM
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And, of course, while he is busily asserting how much he doesn't care what we think ... here he is busily asserting what he thinks as if we should care when he is just as anonymous and on the same minor social media type platform. Does he expect us to be swayed? He certainly seems to be arguing as if he expects as much.



posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 10:53 PM
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Or convincing himself.

Beliefs must be reinforced from time to time.



posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 10:59 PM
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originally posted by: Kapusta
Many of you may know that I was always active in defending Islam here on ATS because I was a Muslim . I studied Islamic law and sat and took knowledge with some of the Most qualified Scholars in hadith and figh. The "Ulema"

I wasn't always a "practicing Muslim " I was actually raised a mormon then later on became what I thought was a Christian. However after becoming torn away from Christianity due to errors and lies in scripture I became spiritually lost .

I decided to not give up and research religion, holding onto hope that I would find a path again . I knew in my heart that their was a creator to my life . To this life we all share . I still very much belive that.

I ended up finding Islam and it appealed to my heart . At the time I didn't know why because I was so Anti Islam due to all the feeding I was given by the internet and the MSM. I soon found out that after researching all the negative stuff I had heard , their were answers . The answers were clear and I realized scriptures were being twisted or misunderstood. I even found out this was happening by Muslims them selfs. Thus extremist.


I also learned that most Muslims don't even understand their own religions

Fast forward and I found my self trying to learn everything I could about Islam and as fast as I could. I really enjoyed Islamic figh . Or some of you might understand it as Sharia I suppose. The more I learned the more I found my self making excuses for rulings that went against every fiber of my body . I would convince my self that these were divine rulings and punishments by Allah (god, Buddha, Jehovah whatever you want to call it )

Fast forward some more I became a very conservative Muslim you can say I was upon the Quran and sunna or a student of salafiyyah ( orthodox islam). At that point in my life I can say I was very humble . I got to a point where I could literally see evil ( or some might say negative energy) I saw it in music I saw it radiating from people . I didn't actually see it with my eyes but rather it was a feeling with vsion if that makes sens . At this time I felt so close to "Allah " or as I would say now the Architect (Or what ever created this life ). Life was good.

Found a Muslima ( female Muslim) got married . She was actually a Sufi ( mystic Muslim) she introduced me to differnt schools of thought. I listened with an open mind but I was set on my Orthodoxy ways of thought. Sadly we divorced because of this . She refused to accept the knowledge handed down from my scholars and I refused to accept the knowledge handed down from hers.

What I realized from that point in my life is that nobody really knows Islam . One Scholar refuting the other Scholar ,shirk bid'ah, (associating others with Allah or disbelieve and innovating scripture with your own ideas about it ) It seemed nobody had a good grasp of what Islam truly is. Since Islam was founded men have added and taken away from Islam throughout the ages . Put a spin on what they think Muhammads Islam should be. This has caused death and destruction. It's caused heart ache . It's caused pain .

I got to a point where I needed more answers. When I asked the hard questions the answers I got were just like the morman bishup or the Baptist pastor gave me. " stick to the scripture " "have faith " "don't think with your heart " .

I was lost again. Years of study , years of councling new Muslims and seasoned Muslims about the dangers of misunderstanding scripture etc. And their i was confused like a deer in head lights.

After being passionate about Islam for all these years I still feel deeply about it . What I mean is that I think like all religions their are elements of divinity within it but that thoes elements have been lost or perverted .

The Islam of today is no longer for my heart and soul . I seek a deeper path . One forgotten and burned by the churches and religions over time .

Over all I can say that Islam in its purity is a religion of peace . At least that's what it was supposed to be. And when practiced according to the Quran and sunna it is 100% . Most Muslims do practice according to this.


Will icontinue to defend It? I'll continue to defend against iggorence weather that be from outside islam or inside .

Forgive me for any errors i am typing this via cell phone ....so..auto correct happens 🤣.

Ill do my best to answer any questions.
I have left out a lot of detail ,could prob write a book based off my experience with Islam and religion , heck maybe I will .

My spiritual path at this point is clear and some of my questions have been answered . That path ( this might come as a shock to many of you ) is Magick . Greco Egyption magick . Strange? I know... I'll have to explain this in another thread . Or you can do a bit of research your self on YouTube. Dr. Stephen skinner that's a good start




Oh one more thing. Since this is the "conspiracy in religion " forum ... my conspiracy is that Muhammad, esa,musa all were practitioners of magick and were able to summon angels (or so they thought ).

Live,LOVE,laugh often.

Humbly



Kap.













Thank you for your post and for sharing your personal journey with us here. I was just curious if you have ever heard of Nabeel Qureshi? Recently I found his "testimony" of going from a devout muslim as well, but in his case he turned to Christianity. I think you would really enjoy hearing him talk if you would be willing to watch a few of his videos. He gave a testimony and then he made several vlogs which are very good. His whole story is in the book if you would like to read it is called "Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus."
edit on 25-11-2017 by TruthJava because: typo



posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 10:59 PM
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I'm in Vancouver

When in BC i'm between Surrey, Maple Ridge, Cache Creek, Richmond and the North. Outside of that, Toronto.


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posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 11:10 PM
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originally posted by: TruthJava

originally posted by: Kapusta
Many of you may know that I was always active in defending Islam here on ATS because I was a Muslim . I studied Islamic law and sat and took knowledge with some of the Most qualified Scholars in hadith and figh. The "Ulema"

I wasn't always a "practicing Muslim " I was actually raised a mormon then later on became what I thought was a Christian. However after becoming torn away from Christianity due to errors and lies in scripture I became spiritually lost .

I decided to not give up and research religion, holding onto hope that I would find a path again . I knew in my heart that their was a creator to my life . To this life we all share . I still very much belive that.

I ended up finding Islam and it appealed to my heart . At the time I didn't know why because I was so Anti Islam due to all the feeding I was given by the internet and the MSM. I soon found out that after researching all the negative stuff I had heard , their were answers . The answers were clear and I realized scriptures were being twisted or misunderstood. I even found out this was happening by Muslims them selfs. Thus extremist.


I also learned that most Muslims don't even understand their own religions

Fast forward and I found my self trying to learn everything I could about Islam and as fast as I could. I really enjoyed Islamic figh . Or some of you might understand it as Sharia I suppose. The more I learned the more I found my self making excuses for rulings that went against every fiber of my body . I would convince my self that these were divine rulings and punishments by Allah (god, Buddha, Jehovah whatever you want to call it )

Fast forward some more I became a very conservative Muslim you can say I was upon the Quran and sunna or a student of salafiyyah ( orthodox islam). At that point in my life I can say I was very humble . I got to a point where I could literally see evil ( or some might say negative energy) I saw it in music I saw it radiating from people . I didn't actually see it with my eyes but rather it was a feeling with vsion if that makes sens . At this time I felt so close to "Allah " or as I would say now the Architect (Or what ever created this life ). Life was good.

Found a Muslima ( female Muslim) got married . She was actually a Sufi ( mystic Muslim) she introduced me to differnt schools of thought. I listened with an open mind but I was set on my Orthodoxy ways of thought. Sadly we divorced because of this . She refused to accept the knowledge handed down from my scholars and I refused to accept the knowledge handed down from hers.

What I realized from that point in my life is that nobody really knows Islam . One Scholar refuting the other Scholar ,shirk bid'ah, (associating others with Allah or disbelieve and innovating scripture with your own ideas about it ) It seemed nobody had a good grasp of what Islam truly is. Since Islam was founded men have added and taken away from Islam throughout the ages . Put a spin on what they think Muhammads Islam should be. This has caused death and destruction. It's caused heart ache . It's caused pain .

I got to a point where I needed more answers. When I asked the hard questions the answers I got were just like the morman bishup or the Baptist pastor gave me. " stick to the scripture " "have faith " "don't think with your heart " .

I was lost again. Years of study , years of councling new Muslims and seasoned Muslims about the dangers of misunderstanding scripture etc. And their i was confused like a deer in head lights.

After being passionate about Islam for all these years I still feel deeply about it . What I mean is that I think like all religions their are elements of divinity within it but that thoes elements have been lost or perverted .

The Islam of today is no longer for my heart and soul . I seek a deeper path . One forgotten and burned by the churches and religions over time .

Over all I can say that Islam in its purity is a religion of peace . At least that's what it was supposed to be. And when practiced according to the Quran and sunna it is 100% . Most Muslims do practice according to this.


Will icontinue to defend It? I'll continue to defend against iggorence weather that be from outside islam or inside .

Forgive me for any errors i am typing this via cell phone ....so..auto correct happens 🤣.

Ill do my best to answer any questions.
I have left out a lot of detail ,could prob write a book based off my experience with Islam and religion , heck maybe I will .

My spiritual path at this point is clear and some of my questions have been answered . That path ( this might come as a shock to many of you ) is Magick . Greco Egyption magick . Strange? I know... I'll have to explain this in another thread . Or you can do a bit of research your self on YouTube. Dr. Stephen skinner that's a good start




Oh one more thing. Since this is the "conspiracy in religion " forum ... my conspiracy is that Muhammad, esa,musa all were practitioners of magick and were able to summon angels (or so they thought ).

Live,LOVE,laugh often.

Humbly



Kap.













Thank you for your post and for sharing your personal journey with us here. I was just curious if you have ever heard of Nabeel Qureshi? Recently I found his "testimony" of going from a devout muslim as well, but in his case he turned to Christianity. I think you would really enjoy hearing him talk if you would be willing to watch a few of his videos. He gave a testimony and then he made several vlogs which are very good. His whole story is in the book if you would like to read it is called "Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus."


I appreciate your reply .

At this point I'm not intrested in listening to that . I have been down that path in the past and wish no longer to travel down it .



posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 11:15 PM
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Op good thread. but you were never a true Christian ( Born +Again ) otherwise you wouldn't be confused about the Truth



posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 11:16 PM
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then later on became what I thought was a Christian.


And you gave up the best thing you ever had - why?

Thank you Hyperboles.

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posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 11:39 PM
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Never cared for the big towns but the view's are great ... well except for TO



posted on Nov, 25 2017 @ 11:59 PM
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You fought the British off only to succumb to the "pastie". What sort of a Yooper are you?

Blasphemer



posted on Nov, 26 2017 @ 12:08 AM
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a reply to: silo13

After I left Christianity I read a bit of the Koran. Then I realized I would be doing the same thing all over again. Dropping one "faith" and replacing it with another. I knew that there are no absolutes, just another way of thinking; allowing our minds to swallow the pill. Then the internet came along and I was able to see the beginnings of the creation of organized religions and the power play involved.

I dont think I would ever get back into "religion",

Problem solved



posted on Nov, 26 2017 @ 12:09 AM
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but you were never a true Christian ( Born +Again ) otherwise you wouldn't be confused about the Truth


Spoken like a true Cultist




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