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originally posted by: Merlynn
a reply to: Edumakated
What teachers make and their pensions depend on where they live. Illinois used to have good money and benefits, where I live now they don't and others states are worse than here. Georgia and Arkansas come to mind.
The pensions that teachers and employees receive are based on the highest income they earned over a period of time and the years they worked. Statewide, the average TRS payout last year to the 117,918 retirees in the system was about $36,000. TRS reports show the number of people receiving pension benefits is rising.
The average starting salary for a Georgia certified teacher is $38,925. According to the Georgia Department of Education, the average teacher salary for all levels of experience is $53,164. However, these figures are not guarantees of actual salaries for students pursuing teaching certification in Georgia.
originally posted by: pavil
originally posted by: Dudemo5
Teachers cannot afford more taxes. They already get hosed by the system as it is, what with their "retirement" plan that they are forced to pay into.
Really, my clients are retired grade school teachers.....they are doing just fine. Explain to me the taxes teachers pay that other Americans don't?
Have you seen a teachers "retirement"……?
It's pretty good.
originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: proximo
and the Democrats know it. But they don't want this to pass because they also know it will improve the economy and strengthen the Republican party.
They know no such thing, that’s what you believe.
The trickle down has NEVER worked and the democrats know it
The democrats fear the budget bulge from this bill as it did in 1981 under Reagan's tax cuts for the rich and he went and raised taxes on the middle class to deal with his tax cut for the rich
TRICKLE down doesn't work
originally posted by: proximo
originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: proximo
and the Democrats know it. But they don't want this to pass because they also know it will improve the economy and strengthen the Republican party.
They know no such thing, that’s what you believe.
The trickle down has NEVER worked and the democrats know it
The democrats fear the budget bulge from this bill as it did in 1981 under Reagan's tax cuts for the rich and he went and raised taxes on the middle class to deal with his tax cut for the rich
TRICKLE down doesn't work
Give me a break, this is not hard math, everyone who has analyzed the plan has stated 90%+ of the middle class get a tax cut. This is not debatable, it is fact.
Democrat politicians are generally stupid but they know how to read a headline of the analysis of the bill.
You just don't want to admit they are lying to you.
Trickle down does work. History proved it does. Is it perfectly efficient no, but you can't force people to spend money no matter how you dole it out.
originally posted by: Dudemo5
originally posted by: proximo
originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: proximo
and the Democrats know it. But they don't want this to pass because they also know it will improve the economy and strengthen the Republican party.
They know no such thing, that’s what you believe.
The trickle down has NEVER worked and the democrats know it
The democrats fear the budget bulge from this bill as it did in 1981 under Reagan's tax cuts for the rich and he went and raised taxes on the middle class to deal with his tax cut for the rich
TRICKLE down doesn't work
Give me a break, this is not hard math, everyone who has analyzed the plan has stated 90%+ of the middle class get a tax cut. This is not debatable, it is fact.
Democrat politicians are generally stupid but they know how to read a headline of the analysis of the bill.
You just don't want to admit they are lying to you.
Trickle down does work. History proved it does. Is it perfectly efficient no, but you can't force people to spend money no matter how you dole it out.
If you give extra money to poor people, they WILL spend it. They have to.
If you give extra money to rich people, they don't have to spend it, and often they do not.
Most of those middle class tax breaks in this bill evaporate after a few years.
originally posted by: Dudemo5
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: DanteGaland
a reply to: Willtell
And NOT as plentiful anymore at ALL.
As I said, my friend has a lame 401k. He LOVES teaching his students. Hates the pay. Hates the benefits.
He does it because he wants to, not because it pays well.
ME? I think it's certified crazy. No WAY would I put up with someone else's kids for peanuts in pay and benefits.
Do people teach because they love to teach, or do they teach because they're looking for a paycheck?
Like any career, they get into it because they think they will enjoy the work and believe it will help them pay their bills in a manner consistent with their living expectations.