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FBI has not verified Trump dossier

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posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:26 AM
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"Sources" very familiar with the Congressional hearings that are diving into the credibility and verification of the famous "Trump Dossier" that apparently was dreamed up and published by political operatives last year say the "Dossier's" contents are still not verified by the FBI !!

The FBI had received the "Dossier" in installments not all at once.

They can't seem to validate all the contents.

You would think the FBI and all their international resources should have determined the "validity" by now ?

I bet they have in fact concluded the information and accusations are false.


FBI has not verified Trump dossier


FBI and Justice Department officials have told congressional investigators in recent days that they have not been able to verify or corroborate the substantive allegations of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign outlined in the Trump dossier.

The FBI received the first installment of the dossier in July 2016. It received later installments as they were written at the height of the presidential campaign, which means the bureau has had more than a year to investigate the allegations in the document. The dossier was financed by the Hillary Clinton campaign and compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele.

An August 24, 2017 subpoena from the House Intelligence Committee to the FBI and Justice Department asked for information on the bureau's efforts to validate the dossier. Specifically, the subpoena demanded "any documents, if they exist, that memorialize DOJ and/or FBI efforts to corroborate, validate, or evaluate information provided by Mr. Steele and/or sub-sources and/or contained in the 'Trump Dossier.'"






posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

They wouldn't have been able to use it as a source to get the FISA warrants if they had checked the content.


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posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:32 AM
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If they come out and say it was false and it played a part in a Fisa warrant being granted then heads will have to roll, they are looking for a loophole to protect themselves before paying the piper.


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posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:38 AM
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Figures.

Have they at least verified his Twitter account?




posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

More fake news from the fake right. The only thing the right has to back up their crazy conspiracies are fake news articles like this one. Give it a rest already.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:48 AM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
If they come out and say it was false and it played a part in a Fisa warrant being granted then heads will have to roll, they are looking for a loophole to protect themselves before paying the piper.

Exactly. This is as close as they're going to come to admitting the dossier is a load of bull#, because they likely did use it to obtain FISA warrants, in a major Fourth Amendment violation.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:53 AM
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The FBI had received the "Dossier" in installments not all at once.
Could this be the plan to somehow walk this back or a go around in a attempt to dig themselves out of the hole they find themselves in ? The payment schedule may find the "installments" trail a bit problematic .Just one more thing to keep a eye on .



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:53 AM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: Irishhaf
If they come out and say it was false and it played a part in a Fisa warrant being granted then heads will have to roll, they are looking for a loophole to protect themselves before paying the piper.

Exactly. This is as close as they're going to come to admitting the dossier is a load of bull#, because they likely did use it to obtain FISA warrants, in a major Fourth Amendment violation.


Who has admitted the dossier is a load of BS? There appears to be some parts that have not been corroborated, and other parts that have.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:53 AM
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posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:57 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I am sorry but according to Christopher Steele this document is at least 70% accurate!!!

How could the FBI not be on the same page!

Trump loves pee pee parties and the Russians have the proof!

LOL!!!



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:58 AM
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a reply to: introvert

Nobody but they have also not come out and said yes it is true or we have verified X% of it, and if any portion of it was untrue and it was used to get the warrants there will be problems for them, its just a matter of whos head will roll, or can they find a loop hole.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:00 AM
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a reply to: Stevenjames15

LoL!

This website has gone to ish.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:01 AM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: introvert

Nobody but they have also not come out and said yes it is true or we have verified X% of it, and if any portion of it was untrue and it was used to get the warrants there will be problems for them, its just a matter of whos head will roll, or can they find a loop hole.


Of course they are not going to come out and say X% is true. They are in the middle of an investigation.

Also, it does not matter if some of the dossier is false. What matters is what has been corroborated and it appears some of it has been.


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posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:02 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: xuenchen

It seems to be accurate:

Christopher Steele believes his dossier on Trump-Russia is 70-90% accurate


How can the guy who wrote it only BELIEVE it's 70-90% accurate? That's pretty funny. Plenty of folks BELIEVE a lot of things. Shouldnt he KNOW its accurate or not? And why put in the other 10-30% that he apparently BELIEVES is inaccurate? Just to throw some fun curveballs in?

And let's not forget that this quote is from a book someone is quoting alleged friends of Steele as saying....lol...source of a source of a source, etc....
edit on 11/20/17 by Vasa Croe because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:05 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: introvert

Nobody but they have also not come out and said yes it is true or we have verified X% of it, and if any portion of it was untrue and it was used to get the warrants there will be problems for them, its just a matter of whos head will roll, or can they find a loop hole.


Of course they are not going to come out and say X% is true. They are in the middle of an investigation.

Also, it does not matter if some of the dossier is false. What matters is what has been corroborated and it appears some of it has been.


Trouble is, nobody is saying that except supposed friends of Steeles who said he said it....and for a book that is being promoted. Can't find any direct quotes from Steele saying it though....



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:06 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: xuenchen

It seems to be accurate:

Christopher Steele believes his dossier on Trump-Russia is 70-90% accurate


Yeah, he's the real credible element isn't he.

They all have their price.




posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:09 AM
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If this "Dossier" was anywhere near real, they would have had the proof plastered all over the MSM before the election last year.

Somebody screwed this up bigtime.

They dug a deep hole and somebody hauled the dirt away and now they can,t cover it up.




posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:16 AM
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Always wondered whats wrong with hiring hookers to pee in the bed?



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:19 AM
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"Also, it does not matter if some of the dossier is false. What matters is what has been corroborated and it appears some of it has been."


Also, it does not matter if some of the emails are false. What matters is what has been corroborated and it appears some of it has been.

Funny, you weren't saying that when the shoe was on the other foot.

A jury is instructed about reasonable doubt. The dossier raises a million red flags are far as reasonable doubt goes.

edit on R222017-11-20T09:22:29-06:00k2211Vam by RickinVa because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:24 AM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: introvert

Nobody but they have also not come out and said yes it is true or we have verified X% of it, and if any portion of it was untrue and it was used to get the warrants there will be problems for them, its just a matter of whos head will roll, or can they find a loop hole.


Actually the CIA and FBI have both said it's about 80% true.


originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: xuenchen

It seems to be accurate:

Christopher Steele believes his dossier on Trump-Russia is 70-90% accurate


How can the guy who wrote it only BELIEVE it's 70-90% accurate? That's pretty funny. Plenty of folks BELIEVE a lot of things. Shouldnt he KNOW its accurate or not? And why put in the other 10-30% that he apparently BELIEVES is inaccurate? Just to throw some fun curveballs in?



Because it's an intel-report, the purpose of such is to gather a precis of what rumours are on the ground from various sources. By definition they should have curveballs and innacuracies within, with some form of qualifier claiming such claims are likely untrue but more evidence is required.

Dossiers and intel reports aren't meant to be court/legal documents that require cast iron proof. They're merely a report on what various sources claim to have happened - such intel has to be built upon before any action is/isn't taken.
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