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Possible New Source on Discovery of Frozen City under Antarctic Ice

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posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 06:41 AM
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How does the tunnel they dug handle the 10m per year ice movement?


Thats a very good question Chadders old boy! One I dont have an answer too

I think it would take a very specialised team to work out something like that maybe someone like Lockhead Martin who specialise in Research, design, development, manufacture and integration of advanced technology systems, products and services.


Wowsers what a coincidence guess what. They are there!




Pete’s sources refer to Lockheed Martin as the military contractor assigned to lead the excavations, while using legitimate science projects as a cover: Beginning in 2011 Top Secret explorations and excavations were undertaken by the military contractor Lockheed Martin. With the magnitude and scale of this project defying description a legitimate cover story was create



Kind regards


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posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 06:55 AM
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a reply to: purplemer

And let me guess, this is the cover story..?

en.m.wikipedia.org...



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 07:11 AM
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a reply to: Chadwickus


Come on. We all know that Antarctica is off limits and is patrolled by squads of highly trained NASA killer Penguins because THEY do not want us to see the Flat Earth ice wall at the edge of the world. Don't we?



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 07:31 AM
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a reply to: purplemer

If you read the file you linked to, you can see that there was all sorts of reports of Hitler in as varied locations as Los Angeles, Washington, Spain, Argentina and Chile after the fall of Berlin.

I know, from personal experience, that you cannot always depend on such sightings of people.

But I am sure that the US government was more than anxious to follow up on these reports in the chaos that was the last days of the war in Europe. Things was very much undecided, and it would not be of any benefit to the Allies to have Hitler at large. What would be the ultimate outcome would be Hitler standing trial at Nurenberg.

So, while the document is interesting, it can hardly be claimed (from this document at least) that the FBI/US knew anything about whether he was alive or not. Or indeed where he was.

There was a lot of missing high profile Naizis at the end of the war, and quite a few made their way to South America. Others where whisked away in secret to the US and USSR, because they had technological insights the US and the USSR wanted.

But Hitler had no such technical knowledge, and it would be more beneficial for the Allies to have him in on trial, one should think, than to allow him to slip away.

As to the whole Highjump operation, there was around 4000 people on that expedition, and I find it improbable that any encounter with "flying discs" would not have seeped out.

Further, why did not the US then turn around and invade the antarctic? Instead they should tolerate an enemy, which certainly held a not insignificant grudge, to sit there unchallenged?

I find that hard to believe, frankly.

The US was on a war footing, with a lot of veteran military units deployed, so the simple solution would be to announce to the world that there was still Nazi troops in the Antarctic and invade it.

If they could defeat the nazis in Europe they sure could defeat them in Antartica?

And, if there was a "nazi utopia" in Antartica, why did the nazis hide in South America?

Cheers,

BT



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 07:40 AM
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a reply to: purplemer

Love threads about Antarctica. What an intriguing and fascinating place, many thanks purp.

Antarctica has always been an enigma to me. Shrouded in such secrecy and censorship. Oddly enough like many other 'conspiracy theories'...


Why is not owned by any one particular country/group/org/corp etc? Especially in the world we live in, where land ownership is about money and power.

Why is it always shrouded in such secrecy? What is really going on there?

Why is it so off limits to most of the world?

Why is there such a limited fly zone? No flying below 2,000ft? Why? What don't they want people to see?

Why do such high profile figures visit? Why do many of those figures have no relation to Antarctica?

Think Obama(?), John Kerry, Buzz Aldrin, Bill Clinton (when Pres visited the NZ Deep Freeze Base), Russian Orthodox Church Leader Patriach Kirill, Tom Hanks, King Juan Carlos of Spain and Queen, Prince Harry, NZ Head of Defense Force and Senior Cabinet Ministers, Aus Governor General and Lady Cosgrove just to name a few more recent visits.

Why have teams gone there disappeared and no more info comes out about their fate?

Think Californian TV crew 2002. Russian scientists drilling under ice 2012. And apparently the largest ever all female team is heading out there, 76 of them. Dec 2016. Funny to note the number 76 - Bavarian Illuminati was created 1776. I certainly hope they are all ok and succeed in their expedition. An interesting note is that there has been no updates etc, its been a year..

Largest all-women expedition heads to Antarctica

And sometime last year when thoushallnotbenamedgate kicked off and around the same time Kerry visited Antarctica, Nat Geo and CNN were meant to be sending films crews to Antarctica. Not a peep about that since! That hugely piqued my interest and not long after Buzz Aldrin was there, during his visit he was suddenly evacuated due to medical reasons. At the time there was also emails from Wikileaks circulating on the internets, piquing interest even more..

Why are the likes of alphabet agencies and governments around the world so intent on keeping hidden whats really going on there? Interesting to note the UK has the most secret bases there..

Pic related


I don't know for sure what is going on down there. No one but TPTB does. Rest assured its something of great importance to the world.

My theories range from there maybe being evidence of previous advanced civilization and/or tech, a portal, already inhabited lands, other beings and so on... Who knows.

I'm open to all possibilities, I'm aware the truth may not be as exciting as that - yet the secrecy and censorship over Antarctica tells me something incredible is there. And they don't want us to know..

As always many questions and never enough answers!




posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 07:57 AM
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Why do you believe that there is a no-fly zone? There are very limited no-fly zones under 2000 feet but only covering very small areas over certain scientific research stations where they for instance monitor the atmosphere and they do not want the pollution.

It's not as though it covers the whole continent. That is a FE lie.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 07:57 AM
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You're basically trying to say there's a specific no-fly zone within...an already existing, well-known no-fly zone.

Yeah, not buying this bunk. If they're going to hoax this crap, they at least need to not slip up like that.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:17 AM
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I didn't say it covered the whole continent. And why is it exactly they don't want the pollution there? Is there delicate life of some sort there?

Given how much they DGAF about pollution killing millions of species world wide, it strikes me as odd that they care about some very small areas in Antarctica? Why? What are the scientists finding or studying that would be affected by this? Why don't they tell us?



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:24 AM
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Why don't you do some research of your own? It only takes a quick Google. You can look up what the scientists are studying for yourself.

I answered your question about pollution in my earlier post.

Who do you think "They" are, exactly?



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:48 AM
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originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: fluff007


Why do you believe that there is a no-fly zone? There are very limited no-fly zones under 2000 feet but only covering very small areas over certain scientific research stations where they for instance monitor the atmosphere and they do not want the pollution.

It's not as though it covers the whole continent. That is a FE lie.


Yes there is a no fly zone just where the underground city is located.. But thats just coincidence..



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:50 AM
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The NSF updated their cover photo last night to the Chapel of the Snows.

Research the Erebus Chalice.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:52 AM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: purplemer

And let me guess, this is the cover story..?

en.m.wikipedia.org...


Maybe they are doing just that Chadders old boy.. You have yet to contribute anything to this thread. You may or may not be aware that this has been posted in the grey area. I have done this because of the lack of empirical evidence. I have done my best to provide as much evidence as possible for you. Every time I have done this you have ignored it and walked around it.

If you dont like this kind of thing.. Why come here. Why hang out in the gray area. What I am trying to say.. Is what is you malfunction sir..

kind regards

purplemer



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:52 AM
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originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Not always the case no. They are warm pockets under the ice in places. That lake under the ice they drilled into. Was liquid. Not ice..



Your title says "frozen city". Now you move the goalposts.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:58 AM
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originally posted by: eisegesis
The NSF updated their cover photo last night to the Chapel of the Snows.

Research the Erebus Chalice.



Out of remit for me but had a little look and not coming up with much.. This below is deep dark stuff. By the NSF are you talking about the National Science Foundation. I had a look on the sites could not see a church anywhere. May have been barking up the wrong tree.




In Greek mythology, Erebus /ˈɛrəbəs/, also Erebos (Greek: Ἔρεβος, "deep darkness, shadow"),[1] was often conceived as a primordial deity, representing the personification of darkness; for instance, Hesiod's Theogony identifies him as one of the first five beings in existence, born of Chaos.[2]



As to the chalice not finding much on google. Could you expand please..

Happy Days



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 08:59 AM
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TinfoilTP you confuse me. How have I moved my goal posts...?



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: fluff007


Why don't you do some research of your own? It only takes a quick Google. You can look up what the scientists are studying for yourself.

I answered your question about pollution in my earlier post.

Who do you think "They" are, exactly?


Yes I have been watching what they have been studying. What happened at lake Vestoy. Why did JPL pull out after the scientists found a large magnetic anomaly in the area.



lmost immediately after the discovery of the Columbia "Vostok magnetic anomaly," word began to leak out that JPL was inexplicably "pulling back from its Vostok exploration program." The reason given was the previously stated "environmental concerns." This was all well and good


Then JPL announced that the mission had been taking over by the NSA. This was followed by an internet storm denouncing the story.


Did you see the Wikileaks images of Antarctica. They where not posted up for no reason. One appears to show a possbibe UFO in the sky, another an area of glowing fog and another J.Kerry Walknig off into the distance.

The cat is coming out of the bag. Disclosure is coming.

www.enterprisemission.com...



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:16 AM
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ou're basically trying to say there's a specific no-fly zone within...an already existing, well-known no-fly zone.


No I am saying there are very specific non fly zones in certain places. Along with other very strict shipping restrictions keeping ships out of areas for the next 35 years.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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Interesting thoughts.

Hitler on trial in Nuremberg. I dunno. One could pose the same question regarding Osama B.L, Khaddafi. There is always a mouthful of bringing a perceived villain to justice. However, a villain dead means justice has been served. I only recount this because the political dimension to these "trials" is wrought with uncertainty. And while we now can discuss the political expediency of Germany 's state action leading up to the war and during the first say 2 years of the war, in a manner of uncertainty on both sides, whether Germany had cause or not, fact is, you do not wish certain things legally fixed. It would have put the Allies in a tight spot. Not to mention the effect it might have on the German population to have their miracle worker put on display. A gruesome anonymous death would do nicely.

And there are some indications that Hitler had one maybe two British handlers................If so, it would make a number of his more encumbered decisions more logical.

The military dimension as towards an invasion of Antarctica is also an interesting one. Equipment in them days was not quite winter hard to put it mildly. The best analogy is perhaps the Soviet - Finland winter war and the effects of winter on both the Soviet and German armies in say the 1941 winter and consequent 1942 winter in Stalingrad. D-day needed 2-3 years of preparation to commence. And the Byrd story shows what happens to a basically military operation unprepared for what they encountered. And as always, military enterprises are always considered through the lens of logistics, investment, gain and loss.

(You may also read up on Desert Storm and the way the preparations for that war had been done.)

The reason why the Western front moved east so quickly has nothing to do with the military might of the Western Allies, but everything to do with the internal economic stagnation within Germany. Everything hinged on the supply of East European diesel, which was threatened by the 1942 battle of Kursk, the incessant areal bombings and the subsequent eastern advance causing important strategic choices. 1. Panzer waffe was under direct control of Hitler, 2. Fuel shortages. It is very easy to overstate military prowess when the antagonist is virtually in disarray.

It may be interesting for you to read Von Manteuffel's Lost Victories. .... That being said, again, logistics and weather are to this day important considerations for any attack.

What you have effectively said is: because in my estimation "x" should have happened but it did not, the story is improbable.

An option might be to simply find out which units were there in the Antarctic theater and who were in those units and trace witnesses. If that information is still sealed/ privileged, it may be an indicator of something to be afoot.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 10:09 AM
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It was on their Facebook page. It's a different picture now, but I took a screenshot last night (currently at work). The chalice is kept in New Zealand and is brought to the chapel once a year to be used for ceremonial rites.

It all adds to the strangeness.



The original Chapel of the Snows burned down in 1978 and was replaced with a new temporary chapel. That makeshift building was converted to other uses after the current chapel was built and has also since burned. The current chapel, dedicated in 1989, features custom stained glass featuring the Antarctica Continent, the Erebus Chalice (during Austral Summers only), and memorabilia from the US Navy's historic involvement in Operation Deep Freeze. The altar of the Chapel of the Snows comes from St Saviour's Chapel in Lyttelton, New Zealand,[2] where Robert Falcon Scott worshiped prior to embarking on the ill-fated Terra Nova Expedition.

Erebus Chalice given to Chapel of the Snows


A William IV silver gilt chalice carried aboard HMS Erebus by Sir James Clark Ross on his “Voyage of Discovery and Research in the Southern and Antarctic Regions during the years 1839-43” has been given to the United States National Science Foundation for use in Antarctica’s first church — the tiny Chapel of the Snows on Ross Island where thousands of Americans from McMurdo Station and nearby Scott Base have worshiped since 1956.

The chalice and two sets of the original communion linen were a gift from Miss Betty Bird, of Auckland, to commemorate the 75th anniversary of Scott’s expedition to the South Pole which started from Ross Island.

It is appropriate that the chalice will be used in the Ross Island community’s church because Miss Bird’s great-great grandfather, Lieutenant Edward Joseph Bird, was senior lieutenant of the Erebus which, with HMS Terror, first sighted Mt Erebus on January 28, 1841. Ross named the western promontory at the foot of the volcano “Cape Bird”. McMurdo Sound, first named McMurdo Bay, bears the name of Bird’s opposite number in the Terror, Lieutenant Archibald McMurdo.

antarcticsociety.org.nz...


Notice the IHS (occult Christianity).


symboldictionary.net...


Big Dead Place: Inside the Strange and Menacing World of Antarctica, p. 311


IHS is derived from the pagan Greek word form Jesus ΙΗΣΟUΣ. In the pagan religion, Horus was the divine son of Seb and Isis (Father/Holy Spirit). This is where the false doctrine of the Trinity originated and why the “Virgin Mary” was elevated to Queen of Heaven and Mother of God. So, the term we use “Jesus H. Christ” in reality H stands for Horus the divine pagan son of Isis. YHVH was given pagan symbols such as the blazing sun and associated with Apollo the Sun god and worshiped on Sunday the day of the Sun God.

Isn't Antarctica fun?


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posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 10:25 AM
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Curious thing, I had for several days thought of Antarctica and John Kerry's visit. Nothing seemed to come of it, it seemed to go hush. But now here it is in this OP, the continuing search or quest for answers that might shed light on a possible civilization or habitation of the area.



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