posted on Feb, 13 2005 @ 12:38 AM
While I have come to understand your views more over the last few days I must say,,,,,,,we slightly vary. While yes a great part of faith and love
for God comes from the inner personal relationships people and God have outside religion, I can say I would go as far as you.
I feel as said before that some how I have the feeling that you have elevated yourself beyond the point of your intended purpose. I would say even you
seem to state in a way that we are Gods and there is no heaven and no hell. I have this thought because you stated the faith and power from with in is
the predestine position of man, I cant see why God would have to creat us if we are as powerful as you say we according to how you percieve us could
have made ourselves come into existance.
Now I know that this is probably the most drastic stand based on my interpretation of your intent , but it doesn't seem so far fetched of a theory
based on your angle, now before you think my assesment is biased by a religion view point I must remind you that I belong to no faith at all.
My connection is with God and Jesus directly not through the religious conception of faith, I use the Bible in fact as a guide point, not as a path of
belief. Do you remember the thread we first talked on the subject , where in we explained our positions.
I told you that the one true faith comes from with in through a connection of heart , mind and soul. and we came to the conclusion that we while
simular in our beliefs we where fundamentaly differnt on the point of Unconditional love being only for God and that to give that love that rates so
high should not be put in man. Well here is why I believe unconditional love cant be for one man to give to another.
We are told by God to A) not put anything before him
b) our reward is not in this world nor it's people C)God said not to place this type of admiration in man because some shall lead you to the wrong
path, just these 3 reasons alone and yes there are more reasons put conditions on our love. God said their must be love for your brother , but it cant
be unconditional....... because he made conditions where imposed on us by God a claim and belief of unconditional love may only be placed in him and
Also we have talked about the fact that he gave us free will so that we can specifically choose to serve him there for , your free will to choose to
partially accept some of the rules of God and the results of judgement are not accepted by you (as hinted in the fact that you said hereYour religions
have told you that you have to serve god and accomplish what "he" wants because if not, you will be in troubles....YOU have the power in yourself,
you are not here to serve god, you are here to CONNECT with god, those who do not connect are the ones who hate, the ones who serve the negative...You
see the whole picture)
You also deny the existance of the place where he lives and where he will be inturing Lucifer for eternity. When you say there is basically no heaven
or hell. If this is not the case then do you say God is lying, for the Bible says if it where not true would he not have said so.
You even go as far as to say we are equal to Jesus, I cant even go there with a response other than, Why have Jesus die for our sins if we where as
good as he. We are fallable creatures, Jesus was a carpenter not a murderer , rapist,thief, etc all things we as humans have been known to do.
I cant believe when you say that we are the same as him you would say he does these things, for if we are no differnt then he should ghave commited
these sins at some point too.