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Colorado doctors claim baby boy is first marijuana overdose death

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posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:00 PM
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Marijuana, safe alternative medicine or potential threat? The only way I ever imagined someone could die from ingesting marijuana was by choking- but, some doctors in Colorado are claiming that a child, not even a year old, died as a result of consuming too much pot. Is this just an attempt to demonize the plant (it has been called "Devil's Weed") and further the interests of Big Pharma? Or, is this really the first known case of a human being's death being brought on by consumption of Cannabis?

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Two poison control doctors claim to have documented the first known case of death by marijuana overdose, sparking a medical debate over what killed an 11-month-old baby in Colorado two years ago. The case report was published in the journal Clinical Practice and Cases in Emergency Medicine and is co-authored by a pair of doctors at the Rocky Mountain Poison and Drug Center, which is housed at Denver Health. The doctors behind the case report, Doctors Thomas Nappe and Christopher Hoyte, worked on the baby’s care as part of their duties at the regional poison control center. They claim that damage to the child’s heart muscle, which was listed as the boy’s cause of death, was brought on by ingesting marijuana. This is the first news story in which either of the doctors publicly discussed the case that was published in a medical journal in March of this year.



The only thing that we found was marijuana. High concentrations of marijuana in his blood. And that’s the only thing we found,” Hoyte said. “The kid never really got better. And just one thing led to another and the kid ended up with a heart stopped. And the kid stopped breathing and died.” The case report makes what amounts to a very bold statement in the scientific world, “As of this writing, this is the first reported pediatric death associated with cannabis exposure.” If correct, the phenomenon Dr. Hoyte claims to have documented would remain the only time a marijuana overdose is known to have caused a human death. Other doctors are deeply skeptical of the strong language used in the report.



Both published accounts of this case clearly state that the autopsy shows that the 11-month-old boy died of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) which caused the heart to fail. The Nappe/Hoyte published case study takes the diagnosis a step further, theorizing that the myocarditis was caused by cannabis overdose, which then caused the baby boy’s heart to fail. Join now for as low as $29 / yr Subscribe Now That diagnosis of this heart condition is at the core of the medical debate over this case study. Myocarditis is rare in children, and can often be fatal when diagnosed. In children, fatal myocarditis is usually caused by a virus called Coxsackievirus. The authors of the case report say that virus was ruled out in this case.


Please check out the link for more information about this controversial case. The lesson that should be learned from this is:
KEEP DRUGS AND OTHER POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SUBSTANCES OUT OF THE REACH OF CHILDREN! Shouldn't parents already know this???
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posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: seattlerat

So one in probably trillions or more marijuana uses MAY have resulted in the death of an 11-month year old.

How many deaths have been proven to be caused by prescription, or even OTC drugs? I don't know but it's a helluva a lot more than one.


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posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:07 PM
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A tragic pity.

Yet the Big Story even if that's what kilt the infant is : the first and only death ever.

Run tell this: Too Much Water Will Kill A Plant.
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posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:08 PM
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Not likely.
I would need to know if the child received any of the mandatory multitude of shots kids are forced to get.

We will begin to see deaths in the future, after Monsanto starts playing with Cannabis DNA.


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posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:12 PM
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I would say Horrible parents are the cause of this babies death.


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posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:12 PM
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“The kid never really got better. And just one thing led to another and the kid ended up with a heart stopped. And the kid stopped breathing and died.”

These are the words of an M.D.???? I have never heard a medical doctor talk like this. "One thing led to another", "the kid ended up with a heart stopped". The guy sounds like a moron.

Of course the case will be used as a reason to demonize marijuana. It's shocking that there are still people (like Jeff Sessions) who think marijuana is evil, and compare it to heroin and such.



posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: visitedbythem
Not likely.
I would need to know if the child received any of the mandatory multitude of shots kids are forced to get.

We will begin to see deaths in the future, after Monsanto starts playing with Cannabis DNA.



Or have they already???



posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:15 PM
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Remember all the money made by the war on drugs, war on drugs propaganda maybe?



posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:16 PM
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We will begin to see deaths in the future, after Monsanto starts playing with Cannabis DNA


Damm I never thought of that before. Reading that kinda bummed me out.



posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:16 PM
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This seems to be a bit of a leap..

"Unknown dose," "high concentrations," etc. are hard to pin down to actual quantifiable data.

I do think its possible that the ingestion (which.. how did this poor child ingest any?) precipitated a pre-existing condition that was previously undiagnosed. Even then, there just doesn't seem to be enough data to determine much of anything, which in my opinion, kind of escalates the tragedy.

In cases of tragedy we do tend to look for any answers whatsoever. I wonder if the doctors suggesting it was an overdose have any history with opinions against (or even in support) of cannabis.



posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:17 PM
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a reply to: seattlerat

So drinking too much WATER is more dangerous than OD'ing on pot.

Got it



posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: ColeYounger
“The kid never really got better. And just one thing led to another and the kid ended up with a heart stopped. And the kid stopped breathing and died.”

These are the words of an M.D.???? I have never heard a medical doctor talk like this. "One thing led to another", "the kid ended up with a heart stopped". The guy sounds like a moron.

Of course the case will be used as a reason to demonize marijuana. It's shocking that there are still people (like Jeff Sessions) who think marijuana is evil, and compare it to heroin and such.


And how about this part?
"TheText The only thing that we found was marijuana. High concentrations of marijuana in his blood. And that’s the only thing we found,” Hoyte said.

You don't find marijuana in blood. THC and many other Hydrocarbons and terpenes



posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:20 PM
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I'd like to see the paper on this and what exactly the doctors consider to be "high concentrations" of marijuana. I also find it curious that an MD would even put it in that context because there are many chemical components to cannabis. Was it a high THC level, CBD, CBN? All 3? Not a lit of information when they're claiming that it was cannabis that killed the poor kid. And then there's the question of why did thenkid have cannabis in his system at all? We're tge parents scumbags who gave it to the child to quiet him down? Was it for another medical condition? Did the kid get into mom and dads edibles (which would be irresponsible of the parents). A lot of open ended questions and no then anything clear cut that says cannabis killed the child aside from 2 doctors who have t released their results.


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posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:21 PM
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Bullsh#t, that's what I'm calling this.



posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: slapjacks
You are aware that people send out samples of their flowers to be DNA tested ? I havnt heard of anyone finding snake, cockroach, pig, or eye of the newt in any so far



posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:23 PM
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Most important part:


Other doctors are deeply skeptical of the strong language used in the report.
“That statement is too much. It’s too much as far as I’m concerned,” said Dr. Noah Kaufman, an emergency medicine specialist based in Northern Colorado. “Because that is saying confidently that this is the first case. ‘We’ve got one!’ And I still disagree with that.”


But then again:


Both published accounts of this case clearly state that the autopsy shows that the 11-month-old boy died of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) which caused the heart to fail.


If a baby ingested a large amount of extract, who knows. It can't be good. My question is is this something the baby could have accidentally found on its own? Can babies crawl at 11 months?



posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: visitedbythem

I guess this infant blended the marijuana into a liquid and then mainlined it. He must have been a real hardcore druggie.



posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: notsure1
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We will begin to see deaths in the future, after Monsanto starts playing with Cannabis DNA


Damm I never thought of that before. Reading that kinda bummed me out.

That's why the people who legally grow Cannabis for medical reasons are stocking up and making their own seeds. They just keep them in the freezer for long storage.



posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
If a baby ingested a large amount of extract, who knows. It can't be good. My question is is this something the baby could have accidentally found on its own? Can babies crawl at 11 months?


Yes, some babies can walk at 11 month. It definitely could have been accidental but not without the parents being complete morons.



posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:28 PM
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It's a joke story if they're trying to demonize marijuana, how the hell did an 11 month old child get pot anyway? Totally stupid




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