New BLACK DEATH plague strain can kill ‘in just 3 HOURS’

I know this is from the Daily Star but the information actually comes from a video of a 'doctor' saying that a new strain can kill in just 3 hours. Though... That's not exactly what the details say in the story. It could simply be some non-official giving their own opinion.

"A local news crew following one health worker in the stricken city heard doctors informing residents that the new strain of the disease “can kill in three hours”.

Please see the video for details (first video in the story).

The disease has killed more than 165 people in just Madagascar and thousands more across the east African country. If this is indeed true, which we'll probably hear about in the next few days from more reputable sources (if there are any left), this is really scary. This could get out of control with ZERO time to treat or evade the disease before it's too late. People would drop like flies around you and all you could do would be to stupidly run away and contaminate others before you died quickly. I think at that point you just assume have a seat when you are and wait for a little while, while you make your peace with God.

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a reply to: StallionDuck

If it really kills in 3 hours, that's actually a good thing. It can't spread that far. Now if something just as deadly had a 3 day incubation period, we'd be in trouble.

Because then people would be able to travel without knowing they're sick and it could spread a lot further.

a reply to: StallionDuck

If it killed in only 3 hours you would think it wouldn't be able to spread very quick. The ones that incubate for a day or so are the ones that really spread.

But I doubt the 3 hour death is accurate.

a reply to: StallionDuck

There is also a story running off of Drudge were they are saying the reason this strain is resistant is because it hasn't been in contact with antibiotics. Now, that is sort of suspicious.

Most diseases become resistant precisely because they've come into contact with antibiotics.

www.dailystar.co.uk...

Same story also says:

“Because this disease is extremely rare, it doesn’t get exposed to antibiotics that often,” he said.

“That means it’s more resistant to antibiotics and the risk of death is higher.”

However, he said if antibiotics are handed out quickly then the disease “can still be treated”.

This also makes no sense. If it's resistant, then antibiotics won't treat it. You can't treat a resistant strain by dumping more on it. You have to hit it with something it's not resistant to.

Scientists also believe the disease – which can kill in 24 hours – could become untreatable in the future if the virus mutates.

They then call it a virus! Y. pestis is a bacteria, not a virus, and antibiotics *will not* work on any virus, but they do work on plague.

Dr Avison said this is unlikely to happen anytime soon as old antibiotics developed decades ago can still cure the disease.

And generally the oldest drugs are least effective because they have been used longest meaning bacteria have come into contact with them most often. This is the clearest evidence that the plague in question is not resistant at all.

a reply to: StallionDuck

One of a number of projected and potentially artificially modified bacterium and viruses we may see over the next decade as the elite move forward with there plan to cull the world.

There are probably far more dangerous strains stored at Porton Down in the UK, at similar sites in the US and in Russia as well.

It could also be a natural bacterium mutation of an already deadly strain, we will have to wait and see if it is contained or spread's from the region and in fact look to see if there are any regional outbreak's that are not related to the origin location.

Ketsuko, Your points are valid. what the .......? Something's not adding up huh....

originally posted by: StallionDuck

I think at that point you just assume have a seat when you are and wait for a little while, while you make your peace with God.

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Ah yes, make your peace with the very same omnipotent god who allowed it to come into existence in the first place. Sure sounds like a jolly bloke.

a reply to: Plotus

Either that or

1.) The guy they are quoting doesn't know what he's talking about

2.) The guy they are quoting has a poor translator

3.) Journalist writing the story knows jack about the subject

4.) Some combo of the above

a reply to: StallionDuck

Nov. 14 Situational report from WHO (PDF)

Plague is endemic on the Plateaux of Madagascar, including Ankazobe District, where the current outbreak originated. A seasonal upsurge, predominantly of the bubonic form, usually occurs yearly between September and April. This year, the plague season began earlier and the current outbreak is predominantly pneumonic

The number of new cases of pneumonic plague has steadily declined since mid October.

The risk of international spread is mitigated by the short
incubation period of pneumonic plague

I think I'd place more faith in the WHO's reports than the quoted article. I'm not sure this is even something worthy of worrying about, but I'd think if it is that fast, it's good news.

The African continent seems to be fraught with all manner of disease. Were going on what.... three years of continuous deadly different diseases.

originally posted by: ketsuko

They then call it a virus! Y. pestis is a bacteria, not a virus, and antibiotics *will not* work on any virus, but they do work on plague.

Oh my. Where have I heard this before???



(i was going to use the clip from the lab in Walking Dead where dude says 'we dont know what it is' but couldnt find one real quick)

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: StallionDuck

One of a number of projected and potentially artificially modified bacterium and viruses we may see over the next decade as the elite move forward with there plan to cull the world.

heh.

I've been hearing of this paranoia since a kid...since then, the world population has nearly doubled.

They sure are slow on the whole culling thing.

Well, if nobody spread fearmongering, we wouldn't have nearly as much to discuss here.

Yep, that article was garbage. I found myself shaking my head at the 'resiliant' comment. That's ass-backwards to the real world of antibiotic resistance. Either written by an idiot without a clue and no desire to do any real research, or this article is a huge scare tactic to deliberately make people nervous.

Either one is totally believable given the state of our news today.

a reply to: ketsuko

Wow, lots of holes int heir story, eh? So, resistant, but never exposed to antibiotics, but, hey, they will work, and a "virus", too? Bad scripting??

FFS : the daily express and drudge report are NOT science jounals - they are idiot tabloids

do not expect serious reportage from either

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: StallionDuck

One of a number of projected and potentially artificially modified bacterium and viruses we may see over the next decade as the elite move forward with there plan to cull the world.

heh.

I've been hearing of this paranoia since a kid...since then, the world population has nearly doubled.

They sure are slow on the whole culling thing.

And just were has it doubled, you are thinking wrong you know that, it has not doubled in the west, in fact our birth rates in the developed world are falling with less kid's per family now than at any previous time, our fertility has fallen since the 1950's, guess what as for paranoia son you really DO need to get your head out of that bucket of sand you have stuffed it into.

1950's right through to today there have a number of scientists whom have mongered about exploding world population's and how were they going to feed them all, even one infamous case of a real scum bag being clapped by a room full of other very twisted men whom really should not be allowed into that profession given there anti human sentiment, the they propose are numerous but the one's that actually work for people are expensive and also lead the way to developing society which is more socialist based with better farming and use of resources WHILE the easy and greedy way of culling the human population through a number of potential routes is there and the elite's preferred method.

War was one but planning a major war to send men to fight and kill one another as in the first world war was by then a thing of the past and the cost was going to be too high in the nuclear age so an alternative was needed.

Engineered plagues and pathogen's were another and possibly partially implemented solution that partially failed but make no doubt they have plenty of virus and bacteria in store just waiting for the get go and the third which was also easy but had to be done cleverly using binary and trinary compound's was the use of our food supply, our water supply and our consumer nature in order to administer a number of techniques in the form of artificial hormone's and other method's to limit our population growth, of course they probably did not consider the ramifications on our chromosome structure and the harm it would do to us.

Also the same group's whom do NOT have humanity's best interests at heart despite there obvious and very NAZI like claim's to the contrary saw the obvious benefit's of administering mind control substances to the mass of the population to dumb them down, make them more compliant etc.

Guess what under the pre Spanish/Portuguese conquest rulers and society's of south america it produced maybe sixty percent more food produce than today, today there are vast empty terraced field's in the mountain's and overgrown in the jungles that could support a population far larger than south american even has today, the vast empty fertile grassland's of Siberia, much of north america, the Argentinian pampas AND with proper first world management the fertile regions of Africa which could support a population if properly managed of perhaps 28 billion or even more, then lest not forget modern techniques were that same production level could actually be manifest using high yield hydroponic's in far less space with a far higher rate of growth to maturity of the crop species and far more crop's per year not reliant upon the natural season's.

What about other old world sites such as the famous fertile crescent, you know it is just desert right, well it was once before as well but the ancient's diverted the rivers into a network of canal's that irrigated vast stretched of land there turning arid desert into fertile farm land, with the correct government and regional cooperation it could be again - all they have to do is rebuilt the ancient canals which the mongol's destroyed.

Were is that birth rate explosion, come on tell us, oh o.k. then since you have your head in that bucket let me explain.

They poisoned us right, through our water supply's and our processed food's, our inoculation's and our medicine's to control our birth rate and to make us more compliant but how do you do that in a third world country were they drink from choleric bacteria infested stream's and eat whatever the hell they grow or can catch, were they live hand to mouth and every day is a struggle beyond your personal comprehension.

That's right they can's - not directly because these people are not buying processed food's in bulk like we do and they are not drinking from modern reservoirs were god know's what can be introduced into the water.

But of course that did not stop the Gate's foundation and several others trying to slip them a mickey fin in the form of free vaccination's tainted deliberately with birth control and chemical neutering compound's.

Get your bloody head out of the sand and look at what they have done to YOU and to YOUR'S.

Paranoia indeed, what boat did you come over on.

originally posted by: LABTECH767
it has not doubled in the west,

True, in 1972, it was 209 million
today its 323 million
So not doubled..yet

in fact our birth rates in the developed world are falling with less kid's per family now than at any previous time, our fertility has fallen since the 1950's,

Good thing, the US is the leading nation for meat eating. Imagine how much space we would need to support half a billion hungry americans...keeping a sustainable population on earth is in everyones interest.

with proper first world management the fertile regions of Africa which could support a population if properly managed of perhaps 28 billion or even more,

I recommend you then endeavor to make that a reality...but do it in a way that doesn't require cutting down the rainforests and every plot of land on earth to support us. I personally wouldn't want to live on a city planet...I like walks in the park and hiking.

a reply to: SaturnFX

Sorry for my typing error's that make reading it very hard (I have a habit of typing and what I think I sometime's without intending actually miss out entire word's that I think which somehow just don't make it to my fingers - then I have the spelling mistakes as well as big fingers and a tiny keyboard.

But I would if I had the power believe me I would, life is sacred and none more so than human life.

You know how economic's work's, the money powered banking establishment and the ultra elite do not care how many people die so long as it drives profit and keeps them in there position's of power, profit comes from need which drives the market conditions and allow's prices to rise continuously until the system break's or they have to throttle it, this throttling is often only possible at state level though.

But in fact We can do it though like I say it requires a concerted international effort and a new mode of thinking that is not based solely on greed be that national, corporate (the biggest cause of this) or individual.

originally posted by: LABTECH767
You know how economic's work's, the money powered banking establishment and the ultra elite do not care how many people die so long as it drives profit and keeps them in there position's of power,

I agree with the profits and power thing
And the best way to keep both are by keeping as many people alive as long as possible, and a bit sick, but not too sick to not work, just enough to constantly be working to buy things for treatments, feeling better, stronger, etc..endless money/earning potential.

Not many people many money off a dead man.