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Breaking! Skeptics taken on ‘spiritual odyssey’

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posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 03:31 PM
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Breaking! Skeptics taken on ‘spiritual odyssey’


“God is not dead,” said the host of “The Savage Nation” in an interview for MichaelSavage.com. “Man is dead to God.”

I wouldn't have put it that way...but...


“I’m still questioning myself and my existence. What’s it all about? I believe God wants us to question.”

Savage’s questioning, in fact, has company in the great Jewish king, David, who in many of his biblical Psalms boldly expresses his perplexity and even unhappiness with God’s ways.

The creator of the universe apparently isn’t intimidated or offended by doubters, but He does reward those who earnestly seek him, Savage has found.

In fact, he is convinced that the search for God himself “is the finding.” “The looking for God is the finding of God,” he said.

Seek and you'll find. You bet you will!



“God wants to remain mysterious so we will constantly look for him,” said Savage. “If we could touch him, see him or feel him, we would dismiss him like yesterday’s newspaper.”

He reasons that “if we didn’t think there must be something to explain it all, we wouldn’t be asking this question.”

“Even the atheist who dismissed God is saying there must be something,” he said. It’s all an accident? How is that even possible?”

The journey of the 'finding' is so incredible beautiful. And tough and frustrating and sometimes completely disheartening...but no matter what - you never give up because He never gives up on you.


Savage believes America is being offered a chance to turn back to God.

He writes: “As individuals, as a nation, we must decide to seek Him out, to turn our backs on the sins of our past, and to follow through on doing His will. It’s up to each one of us.”

Savage mentions early in “God, Faith and Reason” that he is going through a personal “rebirth.” And he said in the interview that his radio show and his other efforts might look a little different in the near future as he continues what he believes is “a mission to awaken America, before we lose America.”

So he might be taking a step back from politics and chase the other forbidden subject.

Well God Bless Him and God Bless America!

peace




posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: silo13


Saying outrageous things is nothing new for savage.




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posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

At least he has the integrity to stand up for what he believes in.


Good on him for sure!



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 04:31 PM
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a reply to: silo13

Does he have a book coming out or something?



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: silo13


The creator of the universe apparently isn’t intimidated or offended by doubters, but He does reward those who earnestly seek him, Savage has found.

In fact, he is convinced that the search for God himself “is the finding.” “The looking for God is the finding of God,” he said.

Did he get pics or something?

Usually, the spirit world finds you. Treading around looking for it is what you do in the meantime. Its all around us so we don't have to go far. In fact everyone has a soul thats already there. Instead of looking outward for the spirit look within or thru within.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

He has chosen wisely.

What we are seeing is a calling to the children of the light to choose the kingdom of heaven or the world.



posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: silo13

God is dead in the sense that unlike 500 years ago God is no longer the central focus of the community.



posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

I see your point.

I was going to say 'not in my community' - but I do see your point.

Thanks.



posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: silo13

Wait. Am I reading this correctly? Did Michael Savage give an interview for his own blog and write it in the third person to make it seem impartial?

After seven New York Times bestsellers, including his latest, “Trump’s War: His Battle for America,” Michael Savage is posing the most fundamental questions of life in “God, Faith, and Reason,”

“God is not dead,” said the host of “The Savage Nation” in an interview for MichaelSavage.com. “Man is dead to God.”

Yep. That is totally what happened. Way to shill for this hack, OP.
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posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: silo13

Does he have a book coming out or something?

Yes. That is what the article is about. His new book he is selling.



posted on Nov, 17 2017 @ 10:01 PM
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What is often the case with these propagandists is that they're in it for themselves. They tell people what they want to hear (see 2 Timothy 4:3, 4) cause then it's easier to make money (for which you need the attention and admiration). The "20 million listeners on 400 stations across the United States" are really helpful with that (quoting wikipedia, Michael Savage's page).

What Should Christians Do Today?

TRUE Christians today do not participate in politics. Why not? Because they follow Jesus’ example. He said about himself: “I am no part of the world.” Regarding his followers, he stated: “You are no part of the world.” (John 15:19; 17:14) Consider some reasons why Christians should not become involved in politics.

1. Human ability is limited. The Bible states that humans have neither the ability nor the right to govern themselves. “It does not belong to man who is walking,” wrote the prophet Jeremiah, “even to direct his step.”—Jeremiah 10:23.

Just as humans were not created to fly successfully on their own strength, so they were not created to rule successfully by themselves. Speaking about the limits of government, historian David Fromkin noted: “Governments are composed of human beings; therefore they are fallible and their prospects are uncertain. They exercise a certain power, but only a limited one.” (The Question of Government) No wonder the Bible warns us not to put our trust in man!—Psalm 146:3.

2. Wicked spirit forces currently have an influence.
When Satan offered Jesus world rulership, Jesus did not deny that the Devil had the power to offer him all the kingdoms of the world. In fact, on a later occasion, Jesus called Satan “the ruler of the world.” Some years later the apostle Paul described Satan as “the god of this system of things.” (John 14:30; 2 Corinthians 4:4) Paul wrote to fellow Christians: “We have a wrestling . . . against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.” (Ephesians 6:12) Behind the scenes, wicked spirit forces are the real rulers of this world. How should that fact influence our view of politics?

Think of this comparison: Just as small boats are swept along by powerful sea currents, human political systems are pulled along by powerful, wicked spirit forces. And just as the sailors in those boats can do little to change those powerful currents, politicians can do little to change the influence of those powerful spirit forces. Those forces are bent on corrupting humans beyond reform and on causing “woe for the earth.” (Revelation 12:12) Therefore, real change can be brought about only by a person who is more powerful than Satan and his demons. That Person is Jehovah God himself.—Psalm 83:18; Jeremiah 10:7, 10.

3. True Christians give allegiance only to God’s Kingdom. Jesus and his disciples knew that at a set time, God himself would establish a government in heaven to rule over the entire earth. The Bible calls this government God’s Kingdom and reveals that Jesus Christ has been appointed as its King. (Revelation 11:15) Since that Kingdom affects all humans, Jesus made “the good news of the kingdom of God” the main subject of his teachings. (Luke 4:43) He also taught his disciples to pray: “Let your kingdom come.” Why? Because under that Kingdom, God’s will is sure to be done in heaven and on earth.—Matthew 6:9, 10.

What, then, will happen to man-made governments? The Bible answers that the governments “of the entire inhabited earth” will be destroyed. (Revelation 16:14; 19:19-21) If an individual truly believes that God’s Kingdom is about to remove all man-made political systems, he logically would refrain from supporting those political systems [whereislogic: including promoting Trump]. After all, if he tried to prop up doomed, man-made governments, he would, in effect, be taking a stand against God.

While true Christians do not participate in politics, does that mean that they have no interest in trying to improve the communities in which they live? Consider the answer given in the next article.

[Blurb on page 7]

Jehovah’s Witnesses actively promote God’s Kingdom, not political reform

Next article: How Do Christian Teachings Affect Communities?

Or you can try the video First Amendment Champions for a recent example.

Regarding the part that says: "Think of this comparison: Just as small boats are swept along by powerful sea currents, human political systems are pulled along by powerful, wicked spirit forces. And just as the sailors in those boats can do little to change those powerful currents, politicians can do little to change the influence of those powerful spirit forces. Those forces are bent on corrupting humans beyond reform and on causing “woe for the earth.” (Revelation 12:12)", check out the scene from the movie below, in particular the ending (keeping in mind the earlier mentioned terminology "the god of this system of things"):

Nixon (Oliver Stone)

Matthew 13:47-51a

47 “Again the Kingdom of the heavens is like a dragnet let down into the sea and gathering fish of every kind. 48 When it was full, they hauled it up onto the beach, and sitting down, they collected the fine ones into containers, but the unsuitable they threw away. 49 That is how it will be in the conclusion of the system of things. The angels will go out and separate the wicked from among the righteous 50 and will cast them into the fiery furnace. There is where their weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be.
51 “Did you get the sense of all these things?”...


If not, the article in my signature encourages to:

Ask questions: As we have seen, there are many today who would like to ‘delude us with persuasive arguments.’ (Colossians 2:4) Therefore, when we are presented with persuasive arguments, we should ask questions.

First, examine whether there is bias. What is the motive for the message? If the message is rife with name-calling and loaded words, why is that? Loaded language aside, what are the merits of the message itself? Also, if possible, try to check the track record of those speaking. Are they known to speak the truth? If “authorities” are used, who or what are they? Why should you regard this person—or organization or publication—as having expert knowledge or trustworthy information on the subject in question? If you sense some appeal to emotions, ask yourself, ‘When viewed dispassionately, what are the merits of the message?’

Do not just follow the crowd: If you realize that what everybody thinks is not necessarily correct, you can find the strength to think differently. While it may seem that all others think the same way, does this mean that you should? Popular opinion is not a reliable barometer of truth. Over the centuries all kinds of ideas have been popularly accepted, only to be proved wrong later. Yet, the inclination to go along with the crowd persists. ...

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posted on Nov, 17 2017 @ 10:51 PM
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God Is a Mystery—Is It True?

What you may have heard: “God works in mysterious ways.”

“The Father Incomprehensible, the Son Incomprehensible, and the Holy Ghost Incomprehensible.”—The Athanasian Creed, describing the Trinity taught by many churches of Christendom.

What the Bible teaches: Jesus said that those “taking in knowledge of . . . the only true God” would receive blessings. (John 17:3) But how can we take in knowledge of God if he is a mystery? Far from concealing himself, he wants everyone to know him.—Jeremiah 31:34.

Of course, we will never know everything about God. This is to be expected because his thoughts and ways are higher than ours.—Ecclesiastes 3:11; Isaiah 55:8, 9.

Jeremiah 31:34

34 “And they will no longer teach each one his neighbor and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know Jehovah!’ for they will all know me, from the least to the greatest of them,” declares Jehovah. “For I will forgive their error, and I will no longer remember their sin.”

How knowing the truth helps you: If God is an incomprehensible mystery, then why even try to get to know him? Yet, he enables us not only to comprehend him but also to develop a close friendship with him. God described the faithful man Abraham as “my friend,” and King David of Israel wrote: “The intimacy with Jehovah belongs to those fearful of him.”—Isaiah 41:8; Psalm 25:14.

Does the idea of having an intimate friendship with God seem farfetched? Perhaps so, but note what Acts 17:27 says: “[God] is not far off from each one of us.” In what way? Through the Bible, God provides what we need in order to know him well.

He tells us his name, Jehovah. (Isaiah 42:8) He has recorded his deeds toward mankind so that we can know the Person behind the name. More than that, God reveals his emotions to us. He is “merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abundant in loving-kindness and truth.” (Exodus 34:6) Our actions can affect his feelings. For example, the ancient nation of Israel made him “feel hurt” when they rebelled against him, while those who wisely obey him bring him joy.—Psalm 78:40; Proverbs 27:11.

[Blurb on page 4]

If God is a mysterious Trinity, how can we really get to know him?

Is Jesus God?

MANY people view the Trinity as “the central doctrine of the Christian religion.” According to this teaching, the Father, Son, and holy spirit are three persons in one God. Cardinal John O’Connor stated about the Trinity: “We know that it is a very profound mystery, which we don’t begin to understand.” Why is the Trinity so difficult to understand?

The Illustrated Bible Dictionary gives one reason. Speaking of the Trinity, this publication admits: “It is not a biblical doctrine in the sense that any formulation of it can be found in the Bible.” Because the Trinity is “not a biblical doctrine,” Trinitarians have been desperately looking for Bible texts​—even twisting them—​to find support for their teaching.

A Text That Teaches the Trinity?

One example of a Bible verse that is often misused is John 1:1. ...
...The Gospel of John was written in Koine, or common Greek, which has specific rules regarding the use of the definite article. ...
...What, though, if the subject has a definite article but the predicate does not, as in John 1:1? Citing that verse as an example, scholar James Allen Hewett emphasizes: “In such a construction the subject and predicate are not the same, equal, identical, or anything of the sort.”
...
Identity of “the Word”?

Many Greek scholars and Bible translators acknowledge that John 1:1 highlights, not the identity, but a quality of “the Word.” Says Bible translator William Barclay: “Because [the apostle John] has no definite article in front of theos it becomes a description . . . John is not here identifying the Word with God. To put it very simply, he does not say that Jesus was God.” Scholar Jason David BeDuhn likewise says: “In Greek, if you leave off the article from theos in a sentence like the one in John 1:1c, then your readers will assume you mean ‘a god.’ . . . Its absence makes theos quite different than the definite ho theos, as different as ‘a god’ is from ‘God’ in English.” BeDuhn adds: “In John 1:1, the Word is not the one-and-only God, but is a god, or divine being.” Or to put it in the words of Joseph Henry Thayer, a scholar who worked on the American Standard Version: “The Logos [or, Word] was divine, not the divine Being himself.”

Does the identity of God have to be “a very profound mystery”? It did not seem so to Jesus. In his prayer to his Father, Jesus made a clear distinction between him and his Father when he said: “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.” (John 17:3) If we believe Jesus and understand the plain teaching of the Bible, we will respect him as the divine Son of God that he is. We will also worship Jehovah as “the only true God.”

Regarding the ending of the previous article (I didn't want to distract from the terminology and subject or teaching that God is a "mystery" or "mysterious" or as Michael Savage phrases it "wants to remain mysterious", otherwise I would have put this video in between there):

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posted on Nov, 18 2017 @ 12:28 AM
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originally posted by: silo13


He writes: “As individuals, as a nation, we must decide to seek Him out, to turn our backs on the sins of our past, and to follow through on doing His will. It’s up to each one of us.”

Savage mentions early in “God, Faith and Reason” that he is going through a personal “rebirth.” And he said in the interview that his radio show and his other efforts might look a little different in the near future as he continues what he believes is “a mission to awaken America, before we lose America.”

He sounds a lot like this character in this episode, I recommend Butters' approach on that particular occasion, just to be on the safe side (I don't recommend his going along with Cartman anyway):

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posted on Nov, 18 2017 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: silo13
...but no matter what - you never give up because He never gives up on you.

What about the children he gives terminal cancer to. Or those children who plead and beg for help, to save them from being abused.

Or the millions of people who suffer horrendous acts of violence and abuse.

How is allowing that to happen *not* giving up on them??

Any one of us human beings who sees someone being abused or hurt, will try to help. If they can't, it could be due to circumstances out of their control. Or, perhaps they choose not to, out of fear.

Is that what your god is? Scared? Or incapable?

Or, more logically, 'god' never existed, hence why these things happen around the world daily and go unaided, no matter how much anyone begs or pleads.
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posted on Nov, 18 2017 @ 10:03 AM
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I probably should have added these videos to that comment for a convenient summary:


For those who dare and manage to resist the conditioning and influence of this system of things and the god of this system of things (incl. his main tool Babylon the Great, false religion, which in turn includes Christendom) and by so doing watched the video above that they don't want to watch (possibly feeling it's a waste of their time because it won't tickle their ears as the god of this system of things regularly does through his teachers or influential propagandists within Babylon the Great or other parts of this system of things; nurturing apathy is another option for him to make people ignore the biblical truths shared in the video above), the reading of Isaiah chapt.45 below in an honest translation could potentially take on a whole new meaning or cause some eyes to be opened (as hinted at, there are still quite a few obstacles to overcome, one of those also involving a rational way of thinking about these subjects without feeling the need to look for excuses). So the video below does need to be watched after the video above for the warm appeal and message to mankind from Jehovah below to become more obvious and understandable regarding its relation to Trinitarianism, Christendom and other religions within Babylon the Great, which in turn includes those who claim that God is a "mystery", "mysterious" "or wants to remain mysterious", the last quotation being from Michael Savage in the OP (sidenote: Babylon the Great is referred to in Revelation as a "mystery", which happens to be a synonym for "paradox", which in turn is also a synonym for "contradiction"):

For those incapable of resisting the spirit of the world I'll quote the key verses I referred to as a "warm appeal" (I still recommend the whole message above though).

19 I did not speak in a concealed place, in a land of darkness;

I did not say to the offspring of Jacob,

‘Seek me simply for nothing.’

I am Jehovah, who speaks what is righteous and declares what is upright.

20 Gather together and come.

Approach together, you escapees from the nations.

They know nothing, those who carry around carved images

And pray to a god that cannot save them.

21 Make your report, present your case.

Let them consult together in unity.

Who foretold this long ago

And declared it from times past?

Is it not I, Jehovah?

There is no other God but me;

A righteous God and a Savior, there is none besides me.

22 Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth,

For I am God, and there is no one else.


"They know nothing, those who carry around carved images"...(the god of this system of things likes to start the brainwashing and conditioning when they're still young and pliable):

Why Jehovah s Witnesses Dont Use the Cross Part 1 of 2

It's quite profitable for some:
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posted on Nov, 18 2017 @ 11:37 AM
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