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If everyone is lying then who is telling the truth

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posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:10 PM
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we visit the same forum


it's really something when it's all laid out that way.

everyone's lying but good ol vlad.
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posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: dfnj2015




If everyone is lying then who is telling the truth


Depends on your perspective....would you rather believe a "snowflake" or a pedophile supporter?


Believing someone isn't how you find the truth.
You have to investigate things on your own to find the truth, and even then there's no guarantee you'll nail it down.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
They aren’t lying, but they are all spinning for their own agenda. If you accept everything as true from any source you are an idiot.

Believe me!

High altitude Zoom.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:20 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus



If you accept everything as true from any source you are an idiot.


We need to get this memo to Trump supporters regarding Trump. He can say and do no wrong according to them.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:20 PM
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You guys are drowning in bias and prejudices.
Please actually try to think clearly.
You don't have to think clearly, you just need to try.
That'd be a great start.
Thanks...



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:22 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: dfnj2015




If everyone is lying then who is telling the truth


Depends on your perspective....would you rather believe a "snowflake" or a pedophile supporter?



Why do you always put down the democrats?



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:30 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

Red state voters don't get sarcasm.


Especially Democrats in Red States.




posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:35 PM
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All is well so long as those tasked with and employed to inform the public will do so honestly. But they don't.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:36 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

who's telling the truth :

Trump, Trump Jr, wikileaks, Russia, Kellyanne Conway, fox News ( and/or affiliates), every 'nationalist' speaker, any/every billionaire currently holding a high ranking office in the United States government.

they are all looking out for your best interest.
and along with every Trump supporters (aka the keyboard defense team) on ats.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:37 PM
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originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: dfnj2015

Everyone lies about something sometimes.
And everyone sometimes tells the truth about something.

It's a mixed bag.
Your OP is very underdeveloped and poorly thought out.




LOL

trump thinks everyone of those listed are lying... except putin. true or not?


the responses in this thread from the cult45 are funny.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:39 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Honestly, think about it. Yea, everyone's lying which means no one's telling the truth, not that it matters, because......................who'd believe it!



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:40 PM
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dfnj2015,

Would you agree that you have a negative view of President Trump? That's what it seems like to me.

So , paraphrasing a couple of wise Jedis

dfnj2015, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.

IF you agree with me that you have a negative view of President Trump, then your "truths" you cling to would be colored by your negativity.

If i may, I suggest you clear your mind and heart of the anger, because anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering of the people. If you don't want to clear your mind and heart, then may it is my observation that Jim Beam seems to go hand in hand with the angries.....



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:55 PM
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a reply to: SocratesJohnson



"IF you agree with me that you have a negative view of President Trump, then your "truths" you cling to would be colored by your negativity. "

that's funny - you give that same advise to all those that hate Hillary and Obama right?



op, your character is being questioned.

I think you've hit a nerve.

the responses are hysterical!




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posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: Painterz
This is one of the biggest problems of the Post-Truth Trump era, it's convinced people that there is no such thing as objective truth.

Whereas there is such a thing as objective truth. There are facts. There is science. There is research. There is law.


Where have you been?

We've been living in a relative world for a while now. Everything is gray and there are no absolutes, including absolute truth because if there is no absolute right or wrong or good or evil, etc., then there can be no absolute truth either. It has to be a relative as everything else.

And who are you to judge?

I mean honestly, people aren't even men or women anymore except as their personal whims about truth strike them.
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posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 03:19 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Painterz
This is one of the biggest problems of the Post-Truth Trump era, it's convinced people that there is no such thing as objective truth.

Whereas there is such a thing as objective truth. There are facts. There is science. There is research. There is law.


All objective truth is determined to be so by a subjective judgment.


No there is 'objective' truth in the relative world that we live in. It can be determined by the fact that it is reproducible by anyone who follows your procedure with the proper materials, equipment, etc.

What you are doing here is speaking in 'absolute' terms - which has no validity for physical life. What is called 'spiritual bypassing' and it is an error in thinking and practise:

"Spiritual bypassing often adopts a rationale based on using absolute truth to deny or disparage relative truth" Joh Welwood.

or in other words - it an avoidance.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 03:27 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

You are talking about fact, not truth. They are often held as synonymous, but there is a subtle difference.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Exactly! Trust but verify...



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 03:40 PM
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originally posted by: deltalima74
a reply to: Metallicus

Exactly! Trust but verify...


except when it comes to putin!

believe first, disregard verification from intelligence agencies. LOLOL
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posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

The election is over. You think Trump is a liar and a Putin puppet. Still. So nothing has changed except you have a new bullet point for your list. It's gonna be a shock in a couple months when you realize 2017 has come and gone.



posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 04:20 PM
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No one, really.

Everyone has a spin and narrative they feel the need to push on everyone else.




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