Bombshell: WikiLeaks Corresponded With Don Jr, Asked Him to Push Fake News

a reply to: JBurns

For anyone who thinks the Russian collusion stuff is no big deal..

I would ask you to consider what would happen if a couple of us nobodies did the same, without with parties knowledge so they have no reason to protect us...


If me and you went behind trumps back, and pretended to speak for him, and promised whatever policy for Russian agents leaking stolen government documents on the eve of the election..

I GUARENTEE both parties make a bi partisan example of us, and throw us under the jail...

a reply to: Outlier13

Too bad that didn't happen huh? Donna Brazil said her book never says Clinton rigged any election and neither did she.
Oh well...

a reply to: Outlier13

Ok please show us where campaign rigging occurred first.

a reply to: NobodiesNormal

There was no criminal activity revealed in any emails what are you talking about???

a reply to: Grambler

Why does wiki leaks care about U.S. government?

a reply to: neutronflux

That has nothing to do with the DNC or wikileaks. You're getting email issues confused.

a reply to: comawhite12

Really? Looks away for a moment of thought...looks back again...really?

a reply to: neutronflux

Hillary's server had nothing to do with the election or Russia or the DNC. And that issue was from 2009-2012 five years ago. why do you keep bringing it up?

a reply to: neutronflux

No they dont. Some people want to believe that. The truth is they have been investigated over and over because some republicans just hate thrm. No investigation has EVER resulted in an indictment of any kind. So in reality your statement is just an opinion not based in reality.

a reply to: JoshuaCox


You're only partially correct. Regardless of how big of a deal they make, no one would be going to jail for one simple reason: conspiring with another country to influence an election isn't a crime. If they had directly hacked all 50 states and changed votes, then yes that is a crime.

But that isn't what they're accused of. At its core, they're being accused of "influencing" an election - which if you look at politics in general, that is what they all do. Every foreign/special interest groups influences politics. They run ads, release dirt, make dirt up, falsify information and generally try to sway your vote one way or the other.

Working with a foreign nation (that isn't a declared hostile/war) to merely influence people isn't a crime. There is no statute in the US code that can be warped for this purpose, either. Not even the "fraud" nonsense they started pushing after being informed "collusion" (the word they/you all used for a year) wasn't a crime either.

Sorry, you have to violate the law before you can be charged/indicted/convicted/whatever.

And since Trump's campaign clearly didn't illegally "hack" any emails, they are safe there as well. They didn't steal them, and they're certainly not obligated to keep them secret/not release them/not use them.

To put it another way, my three decades of law enforcement experience tell me that unless they are keeping certain accusations secret, no crime has been committed. To wit, even IF everything he's been accused of thus far is true, he can't face charges since no crime has been committed.

BTW, even Dianne Feinstein admits she hasn't seen any evidence linking Trump to any crime. This is why all Democrat leaders do not support impeachment. Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein, et al - none of the above support impeaching President Trump.

a reply to: Sillyolme


You mean like the accusations your side makes against POTUS?

You can't defend Hillary without defending Trump. The allegations against both are unproven, therefore to say they're guilty is factually and morally incorrect. You can't have it both ways.

Either allegations/innuendo/theories are solid facts, or they aren't. You can't parade Trump conspiracy theories around as fact (even though they're just your opinion) while standing up for Hillary. Either Hillary's also convicted in the court of public opinion, or leftists must admit they're being hypocritical by stating allegations against Trump are settled facts (when they're actually just YOUR opinion paraded as fact)

Bad situation to be in, eh? Maybe you should've been a *little* more selective on the feigned Trump outrage. The left's responses has been predictably hypocritical and hyperbolic. Defend their own side against unproven allegations while demonizing the right with unproven allegations.

Makes sense

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Lie and hide.
Now Congress is subpoenaing Jared Kushner for documents he failed to turn over regarding these communications.
Within the documentation supplied by the whitehouse were emails to Kushner that should also have been in his documents but wasn't. There were copies of email Kushner forwarded to other staff that they provided copies of but the originals were suspiciously absent from kushners documents. It stands to reason if someone had an email that showed a copy was forwarded to Kushner or that Kushner had forwarded to someone else that the copy would be in kushners released documentation. Why weren't they? Because they want to hide stuff that looks suspicious.

a reply to: JBurns

If i'm not mistaken "conspiracy" is a crime.

www.justia.com...


Mueller has the evidence and evidence of a cover up. Not good!

www.rawstory.com...

www.rawstory.com...

a reply to: JBurns

There are no allegations against Clinton at this time so I don't know what you're talking about.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: JBurns

If i'm not mistaken "conspiracy" is a crime.

www.justia.com...


Mueller has the evidence and evidence of a cover up. Not good!

www.rawstory.com...

www.rawstory.com...

Not to mention obstruction of justice.
Working from the outside in...
It's all just a matter of time.

a reply to: olaru12


Conspiracy is a crime ONLY when you conspire to commit some crime. For example, whatever they were conspiring to do would also have to be a crime for it to be an unlawful conspiracy.

A non-criminal conspiracy can also exist.

a reply to: Sillyolme


He hasn't obstructed justice. Firing Comey was his right as POTUS, along with any other employee of the executive (all federal agencies, basically).

POTUS could dissolve DOJ/FBI along with every other executive federal agency at his sole discretion. I don't believe any of those agencies were created by congress (by law).

a reply to: Sillyolme


There are absolutely allegations against Clinton. Just as there are allegations against Trump.

In neither case have they been proven, nor has any evidence come to light demonstrating their guilt. Nothing his risen to the level of probable cause, otherwise Trump would be an "unindicted co-conspirator." Once again, though, you can't engage in a conspiracy to commit a non-violation of the law.

For example, conspiracy to "collude" with Russia isn't a crime because "colluding" with Russia isn't a crime. Conspiring with Russia to influence the election? Also not a crime.

As far as the latest grasp for straws (after the "collusion" narrative you all pushed was refuted) regarding "defrauding the United States"...have you actually read that statute? It has nothing to do with elections, nor has any allegation even demonstrated actual "defrauding" or any "conspiracy to defraud" let alone prove it. Talk about building a house of cards....

Good luck though. You'd be the kind of prosecutor defense attorneys love.

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: olaru12


Conspiracy is a crime ONLY when you conspire to commit some crime. For example, whatever they were conspiring to do would also have to be a crime for it to be an unlawful conspiracy.

A non-criminal conspiracy can also exist.

Mueller has plenty of evidence of a crime being committed and it's just a matter of time until indictments are handed down. Lying to an investigative body is a crime. You should know that. This is looking more "Clintonesque" all the time; lying is what caused the impeachment proceedings not the BJ.

eta....where does the buck stop? We both know, don't we?