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60,000 join "far-right" march on Poland's Independence Day

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posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:02 AM
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60,000 join far-right march on Poland's Independence Day
www.telegraph.co.uk...




Tens of thousands of nationalists marched in a demonstration organized by far-right groups in Warsaw, as Poles celebrated their country's Independence Day.

The far-right march was one of many events marking Poland's rebirth as a nation in 1918 after being wiped off the map for 123 years.



Some participants expressed sympathy for xenophobic or white supremacist ideas, with one banner reading, "White Europe of brotherly nations."

Participants marched under the slogan "We Want God," words from an old Polish religious song that President Donald Trump quoted during a visit to Warsaw earlier this year. Speakers spoke of standing against liberals and defending Christian values.


Police estimated that 60,000 people took part. Many were young men, some with their faces covered or with beer bottles in hand, but families and older Poles also participated.


I cannot believe this hasn't made on ATS yet. This is a really big thing where you have many traditional Europeans not just demonstrating their Independence to preserve their Christian values and culture.

Now what we have to keep in mind is that this was not meant to symbolize a hate movement or far right movement as the media likes to spin it. Granted there were anti-Muslim chants throughout, this was meant to be a celebration of Independence of Russia!

‘White Europe’: 60,000 nationalists march on Poland’s independence day
www.theguardian.com...

TVP, which reflects the conservative government’s line, called it a “great march of patriots”, and in its broadcasts described the event as one that drew mostly ordinary Poles expressing their love of Poland, not extremists.


There are a lot of writers out there in the news that will twist this stuff entirely upon being a fascist Nazi-like movement. This is false. This is a celebration, moreover, a patriotic movement to symbolize the pride that the Polish people have over their separation from Russian control.

We will have to see if this celebration turns into something more in the coming days. If it does turn into some form of movement it will surely spread to other European countries.





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posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:13 AM
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I love how nationalism has become a dirty word.

It used to be called patriotic, and pride in ones country.

A belief in national sovereignty instead of getting on ones knees to globalist's.


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posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:15 AM
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They call them 60000 nationalists. I call them 60000 patriots...

I guess it depends on what ones political view is?



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
I love how nationalism has become a dirty word.

It used to be called patriotic, and pride in ones country.

A belief in national sovereignty instead of getting on ones knees to globalist's.



I have to very much agree.

But remember pride starts at the top. The leadership of a country tells you it's pride or its corrupt globalist ideology.


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posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:17 AM
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If you can find one "far-right" person at a rally, the entire rally is far-right and represents a huge problem.

If hundreds of people smash up businesses, burn cars, loot, and chant about killing cops, it's a "mostly peaceful" protest ruined by a "few bad apples.

There is a narrative.



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:20 AM
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Yeah nothing racist about chanting "White Europe of brotherly nations.".

Also "far-right leaders from elsewhere in Europe, including Tommy Robinson from Britain and Roberto Fiore from Italy."Ah Tommy Robinson former leader of the ENGLISH DEFENSE LEAGUE who are an English Fascist and white supremacist movement, if that's who you attract it's hard to say they aren't a racist bunch.

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posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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Bottom line what Poland does is Polands own business.

They have been victims of both nazism and communism.

A united ,and strong Poland seems to be the only sane path to take.



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
I love how nationalism has become a dirty word.

It used to be called patriotic, and pride in ones country.

A belief in national sovereignty instead of getting on ones knees to globalist's.



That's because we have seen what nationalism can lead to throughout history. It's toxic if it gets out of hand.
Patriotism is love for your country and you'd do anything for it. Fight for it, embrace it's values, and even share it.
Nationalism is when patriotism goes to far, it's a superiority complex.
What we are seeing in Poland is mostly patriots. Of course in today's world there will be anti Islamic groups, but it's been like that for decades against some other group. Just how people are.



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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That's because we have seen what nationalism can lead to throughout history.


Nothing compared to what communism has accomplished.


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posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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So let me get this straight...you are saying one cannot be proud to be white??? Just like one cannot be proud to be black, Asian, middle eastern, Indian, first nations, etc...???

What is wrong with You?

This celebration was not a fascist racist movement!
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posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:25 AM
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Happy belated Independence day Poland!



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: strongfp




That's because we have seen what nationalism can lead to throughout history.


Nothing compared to what communism has accomplished.


Debatable. But you are looking at it from one point of view here.
Yes communism has caused lots of death. But it's also on the extreme political spectrum of socialism, just how nationalism is on the opposite. And even still communists can still be patriotic.



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
I love how nationalism has become a dirty word.

It used to be called patriotic, and pride in ones country



It used to include anyone with a generational stake in the nation. Gotta be white to have pride today.



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:30 AM
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originally posted by: Taggart
Yeah nothing racist about chanting "White Europe of brotherly nations.".

Also "far-right leaders from elsewhere in Europe, including Tommy Robinson from Britain and Roberto Fiore from Italy."Ah Tommy Robinson former leader of the ENGLISH DEFENSE LEAGUE who are an English Fascist and white supremacist movement, if that's who you attract it's hard to say they aren't a racist bunch.


It's their independence day, calm down. Anyone can pick a couple people in the attendance to label the entire group some negative connotation. But if you wanna bury your head in the sand as they say, then who am I to stop you.



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:30 AM
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How bout people stop trying to apply American politics to foreign states.

Geezus effing Snip.

Polish 'white supremacists'.

Be screrred!



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: SilverOwls

originally posted by: neo96
I love how nationalism has become a dirty word.

It used to be called patriotic, and pride in ones country



It used to include anyone with a generational stake in the nation.

It still does...it is called tradition. Just like Remembrance Day when North America pays tribute to fallen war heroes.


Gotta be white to have pride today.

This is totally false. For example in Canada, which is a very multi-cultural country, Canada Day is celebrated by everyone! Race has nothing to do with it.



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:34 AM
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The American 4th of July is also celebrated by everyone.

Sans race.



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:36 AM
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The American 4th of July is also celebrated by everyone.

Sans race.


Absolutely!

If it weren't you would have MSM fake news outlets like CNN, NBC, etc...calling this a white nationalist day as well.



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:37 AM
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Meanwhile:




posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 11:39 AM
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I think when a march is organised by far-right fascist groups, attended by far-right fascist groups, celebrated by far-right fascist groups, when there are signs reading 'Pray for Islamic Holocaust' on display, I think we can be pretty definite in concluding this was a far-right fascist event.


You don't get to say this is the same as Patriotism. If 'Nationalism' and 'Patriotism' were the same things, we wouldn't have two different words for them.

You can be proud of your country without calling for mass-murder and ethnic cleansing. Can't you?



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