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Is It Now Considered “Sexual Misconduct” to Ask For Sex?

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posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: melatonin


However, perhaps you can mansplain why being perceived as a sexual creep is not being a sexual creep.


If you don't want it from a man's perspective, allow me to womansplain or whatever

If I'm attracted to him: not a sexual creep
If I'm not attracted to him: sexual creep

It's that simple.

Telling someone you think they're attractive is not a criminal behavior, it is not creepy, and it's a non-issue. It is completely subjective according to the whims of the "victim."

What is inherently wrong with telling someone they are attractive? It's a mood boost, and it makes me feel good about myself when guys do it, because they're showing appreciation.

If someone is bothering you, and you ask them to stop, but they continue--that's harassment and is a crime.

Stop making mountains out of molehills.




posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 03:28 PM
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originally posted by: FrogGod
If you don't want it from a man's perspective, allow me to womansplain or whatever

If I'm attracted to him: not a sexual creep
If I'm not attracted to him: sexual creep

It's that simple.


And if he forcibly masturbates in front of an unwilling audience, he's a bit sick in the head and this is readily viewed as sexual assault. Attraction doesn't even enter the debate, lol.

If someone wants to openly ask for sex - whatever. If they do it on the job or in professional situation, they are probably asking for trouble.

If someone want to ask to get their wang out. Whatever, If they do it on the job, they are probably asking for trouble.

If someone wants to say 'I think you're sexy'. Whatever. if they do it on the job, they are probably asking for trouble.

As I stated a few times, the OP clearly attempted to conflate fumbling everyday flirtations with the predatory sexual abuse of Louis CK. They are not the same thing. However, the response to the thread and defence of Louis CK by some posters was pretty revealing (:

Cheers.
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posted on Nov, 14 2017 @ 08:32 PM
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It seems that there exists a testosterone depleting drug that helps men to control themselves. Just saying.



posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: InTheLight

What kind of creep thinks it is acceptable to forcefully medicate an entire gender? Testosterone has nothing to do with it, and I personally challenge you to produce any evidence whatsoever backing this erroneous claim up.

Looking at sexual crimes as a male only issue is totally wrong. There have been so many cases of women raping men, and you sit here trying to minimize them. Your claims are the definition of ignorance and sexism. Try to explain woman on man rape using your sexist testosterone claim.



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posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: InTheLight
It seems that there exists a testosterone depleting drug that helps men to control themselves. Just saying.

Isn't there a drug which can stop women using the "I'm hormonal" excuse as well?
Just saying if we're talking about suppressing hormones then let's chase equality while drafting legislation.



posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 10:29 AM
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originally posted by: FrogGod


Stop making mountains out of molehills.


This^


How is it that my daughers are sane and smart enough to avoid making sexist claims? It really seems a lot of parents have derelicted their duty to properly educate and inform their children.
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posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

He's absolutely correct in every word he said.

You can add me to that list, as well.



posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 10:59 AM
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originally posted by: InTheLight
It seems that there exists a testosterone depleting drug that helps men to control themselves. Just saying.


Some women are grade a bit#@£s. But only a psycho misogynist would advocate medicating the whole gender.



posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: InTheLight
It seems that there exists a testosterone depleting drug that helps men to control themselves. Just saying.


Some women are grade a bit#@£s. But only a psycho misogynist would advocate medicating the whole gender.

I thought similar, if we're gonna start bashing natural hormones then equality has to be the road we go down.



posted on Nov, 15 2017 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: InTheLight
It seems that there exists a testosterone depleting drug that helps men to control themselves. Just saying.


There are. They have been used on sexual offenders since the 70s.

I think something like Cypoterone would help Louis get his 'urges' under control if he is truly incapable of keeping his wang in his pants.

Not sure you are saying you want to medicate the whole male gender, like others seem to be taking from your statement D:

Interesting responses to your post, though D:

www.youtube.com...

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posted on Nov, 19 2017 @ 09:13 PM
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originally posted by: TJames

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: InTheLight
It seems that there exists a testosterone depleting drug that helps men to control themselves. Just saying.


Some women are grade a bit#@£s. But only a psycho misogynist would advocate medicating the whole gender.

I thought similar, if we're gonna start bashing natural hormones then equality has to be the road we go down.


I do not want to medicate the male gender, god forbid, just those that can't control their unusually high urges...problem.



posted on Nov, 19 2017 @ 10:41 PM
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originally posted by: InTheLight
I do not want to medicate the male gender, god forbid, just those that can't control their unusually high urges...problem.


People don't need to medicate for that, they just need some self control.



posted on Nov, 19 2017 @ 11:26 PM
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Perhaps, the mundane variety of misconduct is just a Primal Thing, and is latent in everyone. Once in awhile, it pops out and the innocent suddenly become Bozo's to be ridiculed and scorned.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: charlyv

I have said this a few times, we humans sit here and act like the last 100000 years didnt happen, when humans didnt have amazing consciousness and we were simpler , our brains werent as advanced back then.

We didnt have societal controls or moral , ethics in place

humans just did what came naturally to them , in as much that males would breed with other females to ensure survival and numbers were high
mating rituals were alot more simplistic , males would engage in mating practices with females that are ready to breed.
So as early as 14 or something , but of course this 100,000 years ago was survival and now its immoral to engage in sex with a minor.

We have only been here for a tiny amount of time, and we think we know it all , im willing to bet that all of the upheaval in society we face now is a result of millenia of following our biological programming and now that we have advanced and our brains are larger and we have society with laws and moral codes we no longer act the way we have been programmed by nature to survive and so now we no longer live in nature we live in our own built environment we are forced to deal with the feedback from these biological programmes that are no longer efficient or are redundant , our DNA is due a bit of a patch , because the software of society is no longer compatible with the natural hardware we have been given.

because women have always been the mothers to our species they were safe guarded , now we no longer need to breed to survive or compete with nature. So our natural protective urges for females are slowly being eroded.

does anyone else think this , I mean it seems pretty obvious that our DNA is good for programming us to deal with nature , but is not good at dealing with the built environment.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 10:31 AM
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Doesn't it boil down to respecting the boundaries/personal comfort zones of others?

If my balls turn blue its bc I got it in my mind how bad I 'desire' sex.
As far as I know nobody ever died of lack of intimate affections, its not going to kill you to go without for a while.

Give yourself room to evolve into a more wholesome partner, be to them what they desire of you.
If you can do that, you won't be having to ask in the first place.

Besides great sex is only a by-product of a flourishing union/relationship.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: loveguy

I disagree, some of my most fantastic sexual encounters have been one night stands.
You can't generalise your opinion for everyone.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 10:40 AM
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originally posted by: TJames
a reply to: loveguy

I disagree, some of my most fantastic sexual encounters have been one night stands.
You can't generalise your opinion for everyone.


Thats fair. I just know what works for me.



posted on Nov, 20 2017 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: loveguy

Fair one, and I do get your point, when deep love is involved in sexual encounters it does add a special value.



posted on Nov, 22 2017 @ 02:28 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: InTheLight
I do not want to medicate the male gender, god forbid, just those that can't control their unusually high urges...problem.


People don't need to medicate for that, they just need some self control.


How do those that lack self control get it without medication?



posted on Nov, 22 2017 @ 02:29 PM
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originally posted by: InTheLight
It seems that there exists a testosterone depleting drug that helps men to control themselves. Just saying.


Its called porn...



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