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Pro-life student group wins settlement after professor tries to kick away chalk messages

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posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: cynicalheathen
Fresno State is a public university.

The professor is a government employee, therefore is he acting as an agent of the state of California. The 1A does apply, and he cannot take any action to censor or prevent free speech.

The system worked.

He should've gotten far worse.

Also a good point. But why the bash on the liberals?




posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 09:23 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: cynicalheathen
Fresno State is a public university.

The professor is a government employee, therefore is he acting as an agent of the state of California. The 1A does apply, and he cannot take any action to censor or prevent free speech.

The system worked.

He should've gotten far worse.

Also a good point. But why the bash on the liberals?


I didn't bash liberals. I stopped playing that stupid game over 10 years ago. Truth be known, I consider myself to be a classical liberal.

I don't care what the speech is. It's protected from the government unless it is immediately and directly causing harm.

You could put this on the campus of University of Alabama Tuscaloosa, and change the message to Pro-choice, and my applause of the system working would remain unchanged.

There is no Right or Left, no Conservatives or Liberals, just Freedom or Control.



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 09:25 PM
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I didn't bash liberals.

Oh I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about the OP.



There is no Right or Left, no Conservatives or Liberals, just Freedom or Control.

Now that's a great statement!



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 09:29 PM
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And if it would have been a Democrat or "leftist" writing something about God not being real or some other such nonsense that leans left, the professor would have been hailed for destroying "graffiti" by the Republicans or the "Independents" here good old ATS



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 10:17 PM
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originally posted by: mymymy
And if it would have been a Democrat or "leftist" writing something about God not being real or some other such nonsense that leans left, the professor would have been hailed for destroying "graffiti" by the Republicans or the "Independents" here good old ATS



I think the sensible thing to do would be to ignore it, if possible.



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

The ass hat professor should have just squirted lighter fluid on it and lit her up.



Fascists do fascist things.



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 10:31 PM
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Its only free speech on a college campus if they agree with it.
If someone that wasnt pro life that did the same EXACT THING, nothing would happen to them
You KNOW I am right



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 10:50 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Grimpachi
Did he lose the case because he smudged their chalk or for harassing people that were exercising their rights?

Both are dickish, but I can only think the later is what got him in trouble.

Yeah. This thread is just one of many opportunities to bash the big bad "leftists".


The Lefties are good at leaving themselves wide open for justified ridicule, good point.



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 10:51 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Grimpachi
Did he lose the case because he smudged their chalk or for harassing people that were exercising their rights?

Both are dickish, but I can only think the later is what got him in trouble.

Yeah. This thread is just one of many opportunities to bash the big bad "leftists".


The Lefties are good at leaving themselves wide open for justified ridicule, good point.

Well you Rightists are good at that too.



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 10:52 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Both far end perspectives are open to criticism.



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Both far end perspectives are open to criticism.

I hope so or they'll use the bike locks or Molotov cocktails.



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

What?



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 11:03 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Deaf Alien

What?

What is the question?



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 11:06 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

What does this mean?


I hope so or they'll use the bike locks or Molotov cocktails.



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 11:10 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Deaf Alien

What does this mean?


I hope so or they'll use the bike locks or Molotov cocktails.

Those on the far left (like Antifa) use bike locks and those on the far right uses Molotov cocktails when they don't have their ways.



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 11:12 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

If you say so.



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 11:14 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Deaf Alien

If you say so.

Not me. History says so.



posted on Nov, 11 2017 @ 01:47 AM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Oh good. I cant enjoy this enough.

I am not pro life really, or pro choice. I think it should be case by case determinations.

Anyways, YEEESSSS.

FINE that guy. Free speach training....lol

This is great news.

EDIT TO ADD:
His insurance pays it. Damn it. The students only get 1000 each.

Still, good direction.

FROM THE COMMENTS IN THE SOURCE:

A student is suing Pierce College in Los Angeles, challenging campus free speech zones; and the Department of Justice has filed briefs in that case stating that "the school's policies amounted to an unconstitutional prior restraint that chilled free expression."  Hopefully, free speech zones will be illegal after the lawsuit is decided.



edit on 11 11 2017 by tadaman because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 11 2017 @ 04:16 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

If you cant tell the difference between free speech and censorship, by now, well I just dont know what to tell you about anything as I fear its all a lost cause.




posted on Nov, 11 2017 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Free speech is an absolute right everywhere there is no such thing as a free speech Zone you have the freedom of speech.period



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