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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: ABNARTY
The melting pot experiment has been an abject failure. The US is too diverse, too fractured, and has far too many conflicting priorities and values for any homogeneous solutions to work for any of our major issues, be they violence, welfare, health care, or education. Unless and until we accept the fact that success and failure are part of the diversity of Americans, in all things, we'll never stop spinning our wheels.
originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: ABNARTY
You also have to factor in the times guns are used in self defense situations and not I'm talking just fatalities, but times guns were used to stop or prevent violence.
As you state in the OP, some of the places with the most restrictive gun ownership laws have the highest homicide rates. As the number of guns in the U.S. has risen, the homicide rate with guns has declined. There is more to the picture.
originally posted by: ABNARTY
a reply to: burdman30ott6
I'm not convinced it's an abject failure just yet.
I am convinced the solutions for the US are unique and complex. Our politicians most likely are not up to it.
Maybe that's why I am tired of endless comparisons to Denmark or Japan or whatever.
Measuring deaths, gun deaths, gun violence, etc. is fraught with problems. It is measured differently in different places.
originally posted by: ABNARTY
The study concludes mental illness, suicide, gang violence, and domestic violence are all important factors that drive gun violence. Misses adds history, residential mobility, and cultural heterogeneity also play a role.
The author suggests narrow, tailored approaches to the different problems in different locations with different populations. Example: Older men in the US lead in gun suicides. Women are endangered more by certain men with guns. Youths in urban areas are more prone to gun violence. These three examples require very different approaches.