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Since fall of the Shah of Iran in 1979, Iran and Saudi Arabia have confronted each other across the waters of the Persian Gulf. The presence of the U.S. naval forces in the region still deter overt Iranian military action in the Gulf. Iran’s Shia regime, however, is expansionist. The ayatollahs seek to control or influence Shia Muslim communities globally, but particularly in the Middle East. . .
The Saudis conduct air strikes on Houthi targets [in Yemen], which is why the Houthis portray the SRBM attacks as retaliatory. The Saudis, however, are certain that the November 4 missile was fired by members of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps and Lebanese Hezbollah, the Lebanese Shia militia that Iran trains and finances. Hezbollah also provides proxy fighters for Iran elsewhere in the region (Syria).
“The message is that everything that used to be Saudi Arabia is no longer the case,” said a senior minister, who like all other officials refused to put his name to his views. “This is a revolution,” he explained. “Everything is so sensitive. We must be patient until it all settles down.”
Underpinning the cultural reforms is Prince Mohammed’s pledge last month to “return Saudi Arabia to moderate Islam”, in effect a commitment to break the founding alliance between clerics who adhere to the rigid teachings of 17th century preacher Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab and the kingdom’s modern rulers.
The crown prince said a hardline interpretation of Islam had taken root in Saudi Arabia after the Islamic Revolution in Iran in 1979. “We didn’t know how to deal with it,” Prince Mohammed told the Guardian. “And the problem spread all over the world. Now is the time to get rid of it.”
No Saudi leader has previously come close to confronting the accommodation between clerics and rulers.
In other news in the kingdom, a missile fired from Yemen was intercepted over Riyadh, the possibility of listing Aramco stocks on the NY Stock Exchange was discussed (though that’s complicated), Lebanon’s Prime Minister Hariri displayed some virtuoso ironic sensibility by resigning in Riyadh because he felt Lebanon was being controlled by an(other)other country (Iran), and King Salman established a complex (named after himself) in Medina to sort out the Hadiths. (Or more properly, Ahadith.)
According to the Saudi Minister of Culture and Information Awwad Bin Saleh al-Awwad, a council of senior scholars will be established for the complex and will consist of prominent Hadith scholars in the world. They will, the UAE’s National tells us:
…look to “eliminate fake and extremist texts and any texts that contradict the teachings of Islam and justify the committing of crimes, murders and terrorist acts”.
Hadith are regarded by hadithists as important tools for understanding the Quran and commentaries (tafsir) written on it. Some important elements, which are today taken to be a long-held part of normative traditional Islamic practice and belief, for example, the detailed ritual practice of the five salat (obligatory Islamic prayers), are in fact not mentioned in the Qur’an at all, but are derived solely from the hadith.
www.atimes.com... They might be better or safer converting to Judaism
Before the purge, the House of Saud’s incessant spin centered on a $500 billion zone straddling Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt, on the Red Sea coast, a sort of Dubai replica to be theoretically completed by 2025, powered by wind and solar energy, and financed by its sovereign wealth fund and proceeds from the Aramco IPO. In parallel, MBS pulled another rabbit from his hat swearing the future of Saudi Arabia is a matter of “simply reverting to what we followed – a moderate Islam open to the world and all religions.” In a nutshell: a state that happens to be the private property of a royal family inimical to all principles of freedom of expression and religion, as well as the ideological matrix of all forms of Salafi-jihadism simply cannot metastasize into a “moderate” state just because MBS says so. Meanwhile, a pile-up of purges, coups and countercoups shall be the norm.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: scraedtosleep
(Facepalm) Wahhabism itself is the reform movement. It's only existed since the 1700s and it was limited to remote parts of Saudi Arabia until the 1900s. The extremely conservative Shiite Islamic Revolution in Iran in 1979 is also a reform movement. However, both of those reform movements have strict interpretations and believe that the other interpretations of Islam are too weak, tolerant, lenient, etc.
The whole reason extremist Wahhabi groups & their backers in Saudi Arabia and Qatar have been taking down secular Muslim govts is because they're trying to force their reforms onto other Muslims. Boko Haram is another Wahhabi-based "reform group" who's entire purpose is to force the rejection of Western styled academics, cultural norms, beliefs, etc. And remember when Wahhabi-based ISIS was blowing up historical shrines and threatening to blow up historical monuments like the pyramids? Those monuments and shrines had been under the care of normal Muslims this whole time, but it was only the reformers who wanted to destroy them.
So be careful what you wish for. Those reform movements have managed to trick most of you into believing that they represent the true Islam, even though they're the newcomers who need to leave. Surely you've seen the pictures of Iranian life before the 1979 revolution? Surely you've seen Afghan life before the Wahhabi-based Taliban came to power? Surely you've seen the difference between Syrian life in its normal areas and life in the areas that were controlled by the Wahhabi & Salafi groups like ISIS, al Nusra, etc? It's no coincidence that those reform groups have been trying to take down the modern & secular Muslim govts, but they've convinced many of you to overlook that.