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Germany's preferred replacement for the Tornado

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posted on Apr, 26 2018 @ 02:31 AM
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I don´t believe that the Luftwaffe heard from this via press. They knew before and that was only one of the reasons the general was kicked.

Airbus must have been against this idea from the beginning. Since Germany and France are tight partners, both industrial nations that want to keep citizens employed, this was clear as day to me.

One thing I like about the current idea Airbus brings in is that there won´t be a single jet but several key-technologies.

That again sounds not so bad to me. We need something in 6-7 years from now. By then the F-35 will have developed into a formidable asset. But it was clear that by "backstabbing Airbus", this general had to leave.

Rumors are, this was not the only reason but incompetence also. Who knows what´s true or not.




posted on Apr, 26 2018 @ 03:49 AM
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Well, this is a chance for Europe to build a real 6th gen platform...and to put it on the market. There is no way on earth that a true 6th generation platform can be viable just with Germany and France as buyers: realistically they will have to get other EU nations involved - and the UK. Whatever the political issues of departing the EU, British aerospace known how is needed if such a plane is to be viable not just against whatever the Russians come up with, but with what the US will start selling after the F-35 / F-22 are ready for next generation.



posted on Apr, 26 2018 @ 03:58 AM
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Tornados phasing out starts in 7 years. They aint going to come up with something like that before time runs out.

It´s seems they are going with eurofighter upgrades until in 2040. Because the new FCAS (future air combat system) won´t be operational until then.



posted on Apr, 27 2018 @ 03:26 PM
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a reply to: verschickter

Lockheed, thy name is Don Quixote.

www.flightglobal.com...



posted on Apr, 27 2018 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: anzha

I thought it was interesting Boeing offered the Growler for a partial replacement.



posted on Apr, 27 2018 @ 03:33 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

That was interesting. However, I doubt the Germans will bite at that either.



posted on Apr, 27 2018 @ 10:41 PM
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originally posted by: verschickter
Tornados phasing out starts in 7 years. They aint going to come up with something like that before time runs out.

It´s seems they are going with eurofighter upgrades until in 2040. Because the new FCAS (future air combat system) won´t be operational until then.


Perhaps the UK will offer them some of their retiring GR4s to keep the German Tonkas flying :-)



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: anzha

I thought it was interesting Boeing offered the Growler for a partial replacement.


The reason for this is, Germany promised to build up squadron Level electronic attack capability for Nato operations. The Growler would be a natural choice but they'll settle for a pod based solution on the Eurofighter IMO.

Speaking of which, Germany wants the Eurofighter to carry B61s to replace the Tornados in the nuclear role.


Germany presses U.S. on potential Eurofighter nuclear role

Germany’s defence ministry sent a letter to the U.S. Defense Department in April asking whether certification of the European jets was possible, how much it would cost, and how long it would take, the sources told Reuters on condition of anonymity.

Top U.S. Air Force and Pentagon officials are working to respond to the German query, the sources said.

uk.reuters.com...

If politics come into play this will get interesting.



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: AnkhMorpork

Try DCS World! Lots of aircraft available and more in the pipeline!

Py



posted on Jun, 21 2018 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: mightmight


If politics come into play this will get interesting.


Nuclear weapons are involved. Euro vs American defense industry involved. The current administration is involved.

How would politics NOT come into play?




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