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originally posted by: C0bzz
a reply to: mightmight
This is completely unacceptable for a major part of NATO and basically the leader of the EU, especially in todays threat environment. Not the first time Germany makes bad decisions relating to national security. Nordstream2 for example.
I hope they don't realize this until it's too late but for now they are asleep at the wheel.
originally posted by: face23785
Germany? Eh, I mean the war was over 70 years ago. My favorite Merkel moment was last year when Trump was talking about the NATO allies needing to beef up their military and Merkel said something to the effect of "Are you sure you want us arming up?"
The ministry said in December that the Eurofighter Typhoon was the leading candidate to replace its Tornado jets beginning in 2025. It said it did not share the view of German air force chief Georg Muellner, who had indicated he preferred Lockheed Martin Corp's stealthy F-35 fighter jet.
Number of weapon systems ready for action: Typhoon jets: 39 of 128 Tornado jets: 26 of 93 CH-53 transport helicopters: 16 of 72 NH-90 transport helicopters: 13 of 58 Tigre attack helicopters: 12 of 62 A400M transport aircraft: 3 of 15 Leopard 2 tanks: 105 of 224 Frigates: 5 of 13 Submarines: 0 out of 6
originally posted by: moebius
a reply to: paraphi
Nah, the issue they are facing is that, for an originally defense oriented armed force "Federal Defense", they are increasingly active abroad. I think they have ongoing missions in like a dozen countries. So they have to adjust their spending. And they are doing it, albeit somewhat reluctantly.
The other issue is selling it to the public, which is not interested in military interventionism.
“As soon as Germany becomes an F-35 member nation, cooperation on all combat aircraft issues with France will die,” Hoke said in an interview with Welt Am Sonntag
originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: mightmight
It's been officially announced. A collaboration between Airbus and Dassault (France and Germany).
"Sobald Deutschland F-35-Nation wird, ist die Zusammenarbeit bei allen Kampfflugzeugthemen mit Frankreich gestorben", sagte Airbus Rüstungschef Dirk Hoke der "Welt am Sonntag".
Once Germany becomes F-35 nation, cooperation on all fighter aircraft issues with France has died