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Willeford, a former NRA instructor, got his rifle out of his safe while his daughter looked outside again. She ran back in and told him she saw a man in black tactical gear shooting up the church.
Willeford loaded his magazine and ran across the street to the church, not even taking the time to put on shoes. When Willeford saw the gunman, he exchanged gunfire.
"He saw me and I saw him," Willeford said. "I was standing behind a pickup truck for cover."
"I know I hit him," Willeford said. "He got into his vehicle, and he fired another couple rounds through his side window. When the window dropped, I fired another round at him again."
originally posted by: Flatcoat
Here's a good interview with him.
And hit him he did. Autopsy report revealed that Willeford had hit him in the torso and leg.
Authorities have said Kelley essentially shot everyone in sight, killing at least 26, and encountered Willeford only once he left. Officials also said there was “some length of time that the subject spent inside that church in the shooting event” and that “he moved around freely inside the church.” This is not to diminish Willeford’s heroism—he got there as soon as he could and confronted Kelley. But shootings unfold quickly
And we can never be certain the killer actually shot himself...But since that's the narrative it frees the two heroes from any legal complications and that may have been the intent of the cops...To keep this as neat and clean as possible...
originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Southern Guardian
Fed up with what? Where is this outrage over Chicago? There is more gang violence related deaths there every year than every mass shooting in US history combined.
Access to weapons isn't the issue - like anything else we have access to, they can be used or misused. NYC and 9/11 have shown us that firearms are not required to complete a criminal/terroristic act. The best defense against a deadly threat is lethal force.
It is extremely likely the armed Citizen did in fact stop the shooter. Had he of not confronted the shooter, the shooter would've continued to his next location (domestic, right?) unimpeded to carry out his evil intent. By engaging the attacker, he forced him to drop his rifle and flee at a high rate of speed. The suicide is likely due to the fact he was confronted, and was cornered after the accident. If he didn't plan to escape, why bother trying? Why not just stand there and shoot it out using that pistol with the armed Citizen at the scene? Why take to the road and drive at high rates of speed?
Clearly the Citizens interdicted whatever other plans he may have had, at a bare minimum they twarted his plan to survive. Shooting yourself after fleeing and wrecking your vehicle (possibily due to blood loss/pain from the gun shots from the CItizen) is clearly an act of desperation and not according to some plan. He planned to survive, maybe even to finish that long standing domestic dispute they mention.
To say that this good guy with a gun/good guy with a truck duo didn't help is very dishonest, and shows you have no interest in an objective discussion or analysis. No one wants to have an agenda pushed on them, especially in the face of substantial evidence (plenty of good guys with guns have stopped bad guys with deadly weapons). Some are interested in having a real discussion, but not getting your dissent from the narrative shoved down our throats.
It is extremely likely the armed Citizen did in fact stop the shooter.
Yes, we see your leftist slant using the Slate source.
It took a gun to stop a gun.
The shooter could've
originally posted by: Southern Guardian
This armed civilian didn't stop the shooting.
Armed civilians didn't stop the Las Vegas shootings.
Armed civilians didn't stop the Virginia tech shooting.
Come to think of it, any major shooting. No armed civilians. On occasion you'll find armed civilians stopping shootings from time to time but it's so minor. The idea arming our wives, mothers, teachers, fathers, will solve this issue is ludicrous. It has no grounding in reality and only creates a tense environment. Everybody walking with guns right? Surrounded by armed citizens left front and centre. Idiotic.
originally posted by: cynicalheathen
Well that's because the armed civilian isn't psychic.
It was a concert venue where people were screened for weapons. Furthermore, most defensive weapons are handguns. Not much use against a shooter using a rifle from an elevated hide 500+yds away.
On a college campus, where firearms are banned. Seeing a pattern here?
Most mass-shootings occur in an area that either restricts or discourages carrying of a firearm. The shooters pick
originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: Southern Guardian
Nancy Lanza never taught at Sandyhook, that was an error early on in the narrative which was proven inaccurate later. Just thought I'd mention it
Stephen Paddock gambled in many many casinos in various cities not just Vegas