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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Had this discussion hundreds of times. A person is considered innocent ( telling the truth ) until proven gility or wrong.
Take the pentagon. Making it about the government is a false argument.
Over a hundred plus eyewitnesses, many civilians, attest to a large commercial jet hitting the pentagon.
Now would be the time to create a logical argument, backed by evidence, to discredit the eyewitness. Are you saying the are lying? Theyare wrong? Based on what? Then what caused the damage at the pentagon? Based on what evidence?
A jet was tracked by radar from take off until it was at the pentagon. Witnesses and contact evidence pick up where the radar data dropped off.
List of eyewitness accounts...
www.scientistsfor911truth.org...
Then you need to provide a more credible case to supersede a large jet caused the damage at the pentagon.
originally posted by: Thejaybird
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Had this discussion hundreds of times. A person is considered innocent ( telling the truth ) until proven gility or wrong.
Take the pentagon. Making it about the government is a false argument.
Over a hundred plus eyewitnesses, many civilians, attest to a large commercial jet hitting the pentagon.
Now would be the time to create a logical argument, backed by evidence, to discredit the eyewitness. Are you saying the are lying? Theyare wrong? Based on what? Then what caused the damage at the pentagon? Based on what evidence?
A jet was tracked by radar from take off until it was at the pentagon. Witnesses and contact evidence pick up where the radar data dropped off.
List of eyewitness accounts...
www.scientistsfor911truth.org...
Then you need to provide a more credible case to supersede a large jet caused the damage at the pentagon.
Oh, wait...
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originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: neutronflux
The evidence that the towers were brought down by CD is ample. That is why AE911 is so vilified here by you.
In order to see and understand that evidence, one must be curious with an open mind, and have a fundamental understanding of the laws of physics and building construction including fire codes.
Kevin Ryan spoke the truth early on, and was fired for it. Was he the first whistleblower regarding 911? Perhaps.
originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: neutronflux
You cannot prove that scores of civilians that attest to a large jet hitting the pentagon, and we both know it.
The only people who have claimed to have seen an airliner strike the building worked there, in a society where one man lies and the other swears to it.
The only civilians on record were not in a position to see the strike that never happened. Those at the Citgo station all agreed that the only airliner they saw was on a trajectory to hit the building that contradicted where the notorious light poles lay.
It's such a myth.
You cannot prove that scores of civilians that attest to a large jet hitting the pentagon, and we both know it.
The only people who have claimed to have seen an airliner strike the building worked there, in a society where one man lies and the other swears to it.
originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: neutronflux
You cannot prove that scores of civilians that attest to a large jet hitting the pentagon, and we both know it.
The only people who have claimed to have seen an airliner strike the building worked there, in a society where one man lies and the other swears to it.
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Eyewitnesses Accounts
911research.wtc7.net...
Anlauf, Deb & Jeff
Mrs. Deb Anlauf, resident of Colfax, Wisconsin, was in her 14th floor of the Sheraton Hotel [located 1.6 mile from the explosion], (immediately west of the Navy Annex) when she heard a "loud roar": Suddenly I saw this plane right outside my window. You felt like you could touch it; it was that close. It was just incredible. "Then it shot straight across from where we are and flew right into the Pentagon. It was just this huge fireball that crashed into the wall (of the Pentagon). When it hit, the whole hotel shook. (...) Jeff didn't feel the impact of the plane crash as directly as his wife. He was attending an environmental meeting on the second floor of the hotel when the plane struck the Pentagon. About five seconds before the crash, Jeff said he heard the sound of "tin being dropped," likely as construction workers building an addition to the hotel saw the plane and dropped their building materials. "Then, about 5 seconds later, the whole hotel shook," Jeff recalled. "I could feel it moving. We said 'Oh, my gosh, what's going on?' "
www.leadertelegram.com...
Campo
It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane, Mr Campo said. "I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here."
www.guardian.co.uk...
originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Salander
You cannot prove that scores of civilians that attest to a large jet hitting the pentagon, and we both know it.
The only people who have claimed to have seen an airliner strike the building worked there, in a society where one man lies and the other swears to it.
That is another ridiculous statement.
You are burying your head in the sand just to keep your conspiracy myth alive.
Please show us proof of CD.
originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: neutronflux
The only people who have claimed to have seen an airliner strike the building worked there, in a society where one man lies and the other swears to it.
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Salander
Do yo have a credible theory to what caused the damage at the pentagon to supersede the fact a large commercial jet hit the pentagon?
What remains were released to the surviving family members of flight 77’s passengers and crew.
Can you explain the contact damage from flight 77 you ignore.
Radar data tracked flight 77 from take off to the point of no return in its flight into the pentagon.
Going to answer why you have to hide evidence to create your false narrative?
originally posted by: Salander
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Salander
Do yo have a credible theory to what caused the damage at the pentagon to supersede the fact a large commercial jet hit the pentagon?
What remains were released to the surviving family members of flight 77’s passengers and crew.
Can you explain the contact damage from flight 77 you ignore.
Radar data tracked flight 77 from take off to the point of no return in its flight into the pentagon.
Going to answer why you have to hide evidence to create your false narrative?
My bet is that if the truth could be known, I have been involved in post crash analysis in more cases than you have.
What the public was shown at the pentagon was not consistent in any way with the crash of an airliner, same as the Pennsylvania site. Nothing there was consistent with a crashed airliner, yet all these years later you are so very concerned that I believe there was. I can only laugh at you NF. Your insistence that AA77 crashed there shows some measure of desperation, and it's easy to understand why.
The government provided Flight Data Recorder was not even assigned to an airframe. You people are hilarious.
The Pentagon Attack: Problems with Theories Alternative to Large Plane Impact
First Published January, 2011. Version 3, April 2016.
www.scientistsfor911truth.org...
Conclusion
Clearly, the main theory, that a large plane such as a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon, is by far the most plausible theory compared with the alternative theories. The main theory still has some unanswered questions, but it is much stronger than any of the alternative theories.
At present (November 2011) the available evidence points strongly to the main theory, and away from all the alternative theories which would require difficult explanations for staged events.