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Second Amendment Advocates Have Blood on Their Hands

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posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: nonspecific

NOT the running ones!
You need big badda boom then...AT LEAST an M 203 and a great urban renewal project later...




posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: Kurokage




I don't know why you even bother trying to have a conversation with members from across the "pond" to be honest.


There was no trying. It was disrespectful and accusatory from the start.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin




However I think that for a start any individual who wants to own a gun should have a license regardless of what state they are in and this should be a federal system.


Don't stop there create one for speech, and voting.




I think that ammunition should be limited as should large magazine sizes.


Lets treat the first the same way.

One word at a time, $200 tax stamps(poll tax) on posting.

Of course after a background check and only if a person has lived a life of PERFECTION.

Then a mandatory waiting period.

Buy hey who needs RIGHTS anyway.

When ever the mob feels 'scared' they can infringed,deny,disparage the RIGHTS of everyone they don't like.

God bless 'Murica.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: Kurokage




NRA paying for a say that only cares about its own protection and does nothing to have a fair and open debate about should people with mental heath issues or criminal records legally own a firearm.


People who have been adjudicated mentally ill and those with criminal records are barred from owning firearms.

The problem with people from "across the pond" is that you wanna comment on these issues without having any idea what you are actually talking about.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: nonspecific

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originally posted by: vor78

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Kryties
For what purpose is that projectile propelled at great velocity?


There are various reasons and not all of them revolve around it being propelled at another living thing.


And as someone already pointed out, not a single one is designed for murder.


All guns are designed to kill things, thats what they do?


That's a bit of an oversimplificaton. The rather important caveat is that all firearms on the civilian market in the US were designed and sold strictly for lawful purposes. Not something that can just be glossed over.


I think the simplification is valid, especially for hand guns. they are made to kill, intimidate or injure.



But only for defensive purposes, which completely negates the argument. If there even was one.

Edit: Also, that's not the exclusive purpose of handguns. There are many handgun competitions.


If you want a gun to shoot targets then why not leave it locked up nice and safe at the shooting range then?

Same with hunting. Live in an area where there is plenty of space to hunt and keep the gun in a fixed locked cabinet in a secure home and only take it out when going hunting and when finished lock it back up again. For added security keep the ammo in a seperate locked box.


Those aren't the only uses. I was merely pointing out they do have recreational uses, they're not exclusively designed for killing.


Well if you take away hunting and target practice what else would you buy a gun for?

Self defence or criminal activity = Killing,injuring,intimidating.

What other reasons have I missed for wanting to own a gun?


None. What's your point? They're designed for self defense, hunting, recreation, or competition. Like many other things, they are sometimes used for purposes other than intended.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:34 AM
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If more good guys carried guns, these incidents wouldn't be nearly as successful.

And for the life of me, I cannot even comprehend the stupidity of people thinking mass murderers would ever give one damn about gun laws.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: Kurokage


I don't know why you even bother trying to have a conversation with members from across the "pond" to be honest.


It's sad that the OP is what passes for "trying to have a conversation" in your country.

"You have blood on your hands" isn't much of a conversation starter in most civilized areas. Unless, y'know...the person being spoken to has just recently sustained a wound to the hand.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:35 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I'm against the banning of guns for one simple reason: prohibition of anything has never worked.

You want to start a war on guns? Then just like the war on drugs it will be a war against people, and not the actual thing you're supposed to be fighting. You're just going to shift things underground and make them more dangerous for everyone, exactly like drug prohibition does.

Even if you could snap your fingers and make every gun in America disappear, it wouldn't be long before people are making their own. Or buying ones that are smuggled in. What a lot of people don't understand is that when you make something illegal, you make it easier to get. Now all you have to do is talk to the guy down the street and you can buy a gun no questions asked, where before at least there's some kind of legal hurdles to jump before you can get a gun.

I understand your sentiment but the reality is that prohibition of any dangerous thing, whether guns, drugs, or prostitution only makes that thing more dangerous as a whole to society.


britain and australia say hello, ask when did we last have a mass shooting and how often they occur here, then laughs in your face.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:37 AM
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Americans stopped listening to what people across the pond had to say in 1776.

Beyond belief why some think we should now.


edit on 6-11-2017 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: cinerama

Is shooting the only way to murder people? Or is it the only kind of murder that counts?

Or are you saying you guys don't have any murder, mass or otherwise, and live in Utopia?

Or have you simply created an imaginary demarcation because its politically expedient to do so?



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Well said.2nd



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:39 AM
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The reason some fire arms owners want to carry their fire arm versus locked up until used is because criminals don't keep their fire arms locked up. They carry them to use for committing crime. It's why laws regarding carry have been loosened of late.

Doesn't seem like a difficult thought to understand. The very fact that criminals do not follow the law makes law a source of punishment, not control, of criminals.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: cinerama

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I'm against the banning of guns for one simple reason: prohibition of anything has never worked.

You want to start a war on guns? Then just like the war on drugs it will be a war against people, and not the actual thing you're supposed to be fighting. You're just going to shift things underground and make them more dangerous for everyone, exactly like drug prohibition does.

Even if you could snap your fingers and make every gun in America disappear, it wouldn't be long before people are making their own. Or buying ones that are smuggled in. What a lot of people don't understand is that when you make something illegal, you make it easier to get. Now all you have to do is talk to the guy down the street and you can buy a gun no questions asked, where before at least there's some kind of legal hurdles to jump before you can get a gun.

I understand your sentiment but the reality is that prohibition of any dangerous thing, whether guns, drugs, or prostitution only makes that thing more dangerous as a whole to society.


britain and australia say hello, ask when did we last have a mass shooting and how often they occur here, then laughs in your face.



You never had a rampant problem with them to begin with. In the 10 years preceding the ban in Australia, there were about 1 mass shooting per year. And most of them were family killings, which could easily have been accomplished with another weapon.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:39 AM
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The blind lady from Deadpool says vinegar and lemon juice is good for getting out blood.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
Americans stopped listening to what people across the pond had to say in 1776.

Beyond belief why some think we should now.



Damn....

You may have a valid point there



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: intrepid

Blind politicos seem to think laws, and making more of them seem to stop bad people from doing bad things.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

This is just the typical response you get here.

Nothing at all but attack the members country and not what is posted.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: intrepid
The blind lady from Deadpool says vinegar and lemon juice is good for getting out blood.


Do you have your own rubber shoes?



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Shamrock6

This is just the typical response you get here.

Nothing at all but attack the members country and not what is posted.





You are the one who brought it up, not him. He was responding to you.

Come down off that cross, martyr.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 11:43 AM
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Because America is happy telling everyone else how to live there lives around the world but its not ok for anyone else to have an opinion.



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