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originally posted by: SlapMonkey
originally posted by: snowspirit
Another thing I'm noticing on the news, is everyone wondering how this shooter got a gun. In Canada, with all our controls and regulations, anyone can still get a gun, easily.
So how is anyone (news media) wondering how he got a gun?
Because (a) it's a valid question, (b) most people don't want to accept the fact that it's easy to purchase firearms under the radar of background checks (illegally), and (c) is helps stoke the fear about current laws not doing enough.
originally posted by: nonspecific
Interesting.
So it is not gun ownership and it is not a lack of availability as such of medical care for those with mental health problems.
I would agree that poor diagnosis and wrongly prescribing medication can make a bad issue a lot worse and would not be suprised to find out that it was a likely culprit in many cases.
originally posted by: HorizonFall
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Also there aren't many shootings in Canada because on top of heavily restricted access to firearms our population is but a fraction of yours and on average our culture is more benevolent. We don't glorify war and violence to the degree you do in the US. We're just more peaceful. Though shootings do still happen. Not long ago there was a shooter in Moncton. He killed multiple police officers. New Brunswick is about as dry and unassuming as it gets, so it just goes to show that it can happen anywhere...
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Kryties
Why would I show you something I didn't claim you said? I mean that's a very dramatic response and all, but pretty moot.
A quick google search shows all sorts of results for gun owners/the NRA/republicans/conservatives have blood on their hands. And I'll happily concede that LaPierre was a retard for saying gun-control advocates have blood on their hands.
But I concede that because I recognize it's an asinine statement to make in any sort of way that isn't specific to the person doing the murdering.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
The funny thing is, I think that these 'renegotiators' forget who holds the pen concerning these things. Trump, for better or worse, is a tough negotiator.
I'd love to see them try on this topic...they may end up with things being repealed instead.
originally posted by: nonspecific
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
originally posted by: snowspirit
Another thing I'm noticing on the news, is everyone wondering how this shooter got a gun. In Canada, with all our controls and regulations, anyone can still get a gun, easily.
So how is anyone (news media) wondering how he got a gun?
Because (a) it's a valid question, (b) most people don't want to accept the fact that it's easy to purchase firearms under the radar of background checks (illegally), and (c) is helps stoke the fear about current laws not doing enough.
So do we know where the majority of black market firearms are coming from? Is anything bieng done to deal with this or is it too big a market to contain?
What kind of trouble do you get in for selling firearms illegally?
It's all just question question question with me sometimes aint it.
originally posted by: Kryties
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Kryties
Why would I show you something I didn't claim you said? I mean that's a very dramatic response and all, but pretty moot.
A quick google search shows all sorts of results for gun owners/the NRA/republicans/conservatives have blood on their hands. And I'll happily concede that LaPierre was a retard for saying gun-control advocates have blood on their hands.
But I concede that because I recognize it's an asinine statement to make in any sort of way that isn't specific to the person doing the murdering.
You brought it up as an example of why people like myself get automatically labelled. I was simply pointing out how utterly ridiculous that reasoning is when people use it to label everyone who disagrees. Its utter hypocrisy. Can you explain why you used that example when I have NEVER said anything like that myself? Why are you trying to compare me to those people?
originally posted by: Kryties
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Kryties
Why would I show you something I didn't claim you said? I mean that's a very dramatic response and all, but pretty moot.
A quick google search shows all sorts of results for gun owners/the NRA/republicans/conservatives have blood on their hands. And I'll happily concede that LaPierre was a retard for saying gun-control advocates have blood on their hands.
But I concede that because I recognize it's an asinine statement to make in any sort of way that isn't specific to the person doing the murdering.
You brought it up as an example of why people like myself get automatically labelled. I was simply pointing out how utterly ridiculous that reasoning is when people use it to label everyone who disagrees. Its utter hypocrisy. Can you explain why you used that example when I have NEVER said anything like that myself? Why are you trying to compare me to those people?
originally posted by: nonspecific
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
originally posted by: snowspirit
Another thing I'm noticing on the news, is everyone wondering how this shooter got a gun. In Canada, with all our controls and regulations, anyone can still get a gun, easily.
So how is anyone (news media) wondering how he got a gun?
Because (a) it's a valid question, (b) most people don't want to accept the fact that it's easy to purchase firearms under the radar of background checks (illegally), and (c) is helps stoke the fear about current laws not doing enough.
So do we know where the majority of black market firearms are coming from? Is anything bieng done to deal with this or is it too big a market to contain?
What kind of trouble do you get in for selling firearms illegally?
It's all just question question question with me sometimes aint it.
originally posted by: HeadCrunchMcRockGroin
Look folks, it's no accident that the left is attacking the 1st and 2nd amendments so furiously......
originally posted by: nonspecific
So do we know where the majority of black market firearms are coming from? Is anything bieng done to deal with this or is it too big a market to contain?
What kind of trouble do you get in for selling firearms illegally?
It's all just question question question with me sometimes aint it.