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Creationist for the win,,, sorta

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posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:14 AM
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originally posted by: nonspecific
Well by acknowledging him as our creator you are confirming the ability to be a creator. It seems plausable to me therefore that the one who created was also created by a creator.


I meant it was nonsense because you don't address the core of the question, which is where did it all begin? Where did the first creator come from?




posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: scojak

That is the million dollar question that won't be answered in this thread.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: scojak

originally posted by: nonspecific
Well by acknowledging him as our creator you are confirming the ability to be a creator. It seems plausable to me therefore that the one who created was also created by a creator.


I meant it was nonsense because you don't address the core of the question, which is where did it all begin? Where did the first creator come from?


Of course it's nonsense. We have no way of knowing unless whatever it was comes back and proves it or we come up with a scientifically proven way to show imperically how the universe began.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: Milkweed
a reply to: Deaf Alien

But who/what turned on the light?

Another flash perhaps?



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

So what ignited the first flash?



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: Milkweed
a reply to: Deaf Alien

So what ignited the first flash?

Maybe nothing. We just don't know.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Maybe nothing leaves...probably something.
But yeah we will probably never know.
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posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:31 AM
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ummm... from link in OP:


Current physics predicts that when the universe expanded from an infinitely hot and dense point nearly 14 billion years ago in the Big Bang, particles of matter and antimatter were created in equal measure. They should have annihilated each other completely, perfectly, leaving nothing but a flash of light.

Well, matter exists so scratch that theory.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: scojak
a reply to: nonspecific

I said answer using common sense, not common nonsense.

This has been discussed in the other thread about this subject.

In my opinion you are asking a question much like an ant asking where do the big things that crush us come from?

We are not even made in a way that can comprehend something that unlike everything else we know MUST have a beginning. Being a part of the creation is much like being part of a video game, those inside may be given life, free will, intelligence and understanding of their virtual world, but that does not mean they would understand their maker.

God had no beginning, just because we are incapable of understanding this does not mean it is untrue.


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posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Milkweed
a reply to: Deaf Alien

But who/what turned on the light?

Another flash perhaps?


You mean theres more than one Big Bang?



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: scojak

originally posted by: sputniksteve
a reply to: Bluntone22

You don't have to be a bible thumper to believe there was a creator. Just have to have common sense in my opinion


Where did the creator come from? Good luck answering that with common sense


The implication of a creator is that it is eternal. It has always been and always will be.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:34 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Milkweed
a reply to: Deaf Alien

But who/what turned on the light?

Another flash perhaps?


You mean theres more than one Big Bang?

Sure. Why not?



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: surfer_soul

originally posted by: scojak

originally posted by: sputniksteve
a reply to: Bluntone22

You don't have to be a bible thumper to believe there was a creator. Just have to have common sense in my opinion


Where did the creator come from? Good luck answering that with common sense


The implication of a creator is that it is eternal. It has always been and always will be.

It could be equally true for the universe.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:38 AM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Milkweed
a reply to: Deaf Alien

But who/what turned on the light?

Another flash perhaps?


You mean theres more than one Big Bang?

Sure. Why not?


Okay, I was letting someone besides me 'accept' that idea before saying, the universe is probably infinite and unbounded, probably always been there, there have probably been many such events.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:38 AM
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posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:39 AM
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Where did the creator come from? Good luck answering that with common sense
If you can imagine that all that we see and know has not been created then just use the same logic and say that the creator was not created .

For the geeky sciency people this new thread is cool www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Milkweed
a reply to: Deaf Alien

But who/what turned on the light?

Another flash perhaps?


You mean theres more than one Big Bang?

Sure. Why not?


Okay, I was letting someone besides me 'accept' that idea before saying, the universe is probably infinite and unbounded, probably always been there, there have probably been many such events.

Yeah. Stephen Hawking said that the universe has no beginning and no end. It just is. There could be infinite number of universes.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: scojak




Where did the creator come from? Good luck answering that with common sense
If you can imagine that all that we see and know has not been created then just use the same logic and say that the creator was not created .

A infinite and complex being just happens to be there, fully formed?



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Not far fetched if you put the same faith in a fully formed universe. ..



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: Milkweed
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Not far fetched if you put the same faith in a fully formed universe. ..

What do you mean faith in a fully formed universe? We're here aren't we? Besides the universe was not fully formed. It just evolved into what it is today. I suppose you could say that creator, whatever it is, was evolved as well.



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