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Trump Supporters Let The Russians Win

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posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: EartOccupant
If you want to talk about influence, i give you influence:

Having 90% of the press on your side... And still loosing
Having 99% of the establishment on your side ...and still loosing
Having 1 billion dollars to campaign ( half of it illegal and stolen )... and still loosing
Having the questions in advance... And still loosing
Having the government and the president on your side.. and still loosing
While all this was known in advance.. The left kept cheering for Hillary


200 dollars of Russian tweets..
And they are still crying for a year now..

Shut the f#ck up and go find better candidates and plans before you open your mouth ever again.

Idiots.


who's cheering for Hillary, I voted for her and I'm not cheering?.....only the right-wingers that want to impeach her or put her in prison without evidence or a trial, talk about her....look at the number of right-wing threads about Hillary on ATS.




posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: Milkweed
a reply to: underwerks

To be fair...you see more hate coming from the Democrats right now.

What you see depends on where you're standing.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: underwerks

I didn't vote for Hillary or Trump. Don't like either of them. My unbiased view still see's more hate for Trump. At least in the news, online, social media...
edit on 4-11-2017 by Milkweed because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:39 AM
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a reply to: underwerks

Then maybe it is about time you take a step back and watch it from the other side and from above.

You just admitted having a one side view.
edit on 4-11-2017 by EartOccupant because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin


If we take this approach, there is still one massive problem, its now abundantly clear and has been for quite some time that the Russians influenced the campaign.

The Russians resist US military everywhere, thats the reason they are being demonized. But the media can't talk about that directly, it would expose the illegal actions of US, EU (NATO).

So they (you) have to make stuff up. Too funny watching that changing narrative.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:46 AM
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a reply to: jimmyx

Your replay has nothing to do with my post.

And there we have it.. it sums up nicely. No content... just trying to derail the other side.

A tip:
Instead of derailing, crying, looking under rocks, violence, censorship and most of all useless noise!
Try acting better, and try with behavior and good ideas to WIN votes instead of buying them of forcing it down peoples throat.

And a little reminder, if nobody likes your plans or candidates.. that is not always because of "russians" maybe you ideas are just a minority in the world.
edit on 4-11-2017 by EartOccupant because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:46 AM
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edit on 4-11-2017 by underwerks because: Formatting



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: EartOccupant
a reply to: underwerks

Then maybe it is about time you take a step back and watch it from the other side and from above.

You just admitted having a one side view.


Nope, you're just misunderstanding me based on your partisan way of thinking.

What I mean, is that of course it's going to look like more hate is coming from the democrats as long as you are blind to what's coming from your own side.

I don't like either "side", and have no desire to belong to any group of any kind. Don't mistake my seeing Trump for exactly what he is as a sign of partisanship.

Seems it would do you well to take what you wrote in your post to heart.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: underwerks

Sure, thats why i see you also make posts about the good things Trump does.

Whoohahaha



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: Painterz

You don't understand because you're WRONG. The fact that the leftist cult will always continue to give each other pats on the back over BS threads such as this is proof of the delusions liberals experience everyday.

Liberalism means freedom? meaning, erase history, throw tantrums when losing and blindly assert opinion as fact? Absolutely not.



No, that's what the alt-right have decided Liberalism must mean to justify their weird burning hatred of all things different.

But I assure you sir, no matter how many caps-locks you deploy to shout 'wrong' at me, Liberalism is the principle of freedom.

The 'Liberal Western Democracies' fought the second world war to stop Fascism.

If you stepped outside your alt-right echo chambers you might learn that. But instead you've retreated into fear and lies.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: EartOccupant
a reply to: underwerks

Sure, thats why i see you also make posts about the good things Trump does.

Whoohahaha


What good things? Pulling us out of the TPP is the only thing that comes to mind and that actually hasn't even happened, despite what Trump says and right wing media says.

So please, enlighten me as to these great and wondrous things Donald Trump has done.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
It has a predominately right leaning membership who also lean toward conspiracy and as such strong mistrust of government so in terms of our community on ATS, yes you do have a very good point. However I think for the wider electorate not so much.


ATS did not always have the current political slant it has now, I've been here long enough to here the cries of 'oh, this place is so Leftist!!!' more than once.

The wider electorate, whether you are on the right or left, is going to pull the lever for their person, the Russians aren't making them do that, the two party system is and the ones who don't, like me, end up voting for a piece of Australian Socialist cheesecake.



It's interesting isn't it. ATS always used to be anti-establishment. Whoever was in power was suspect and their every scandal or weirdness was questioned thoroughly.

(Unless it was questioning anything Dubya did after 9/11, in which case you were a traitor.)

But now Trump is the establishment, the ATS membership have largely stuck with him. Illustrating interesting things I think about the psychology of the Trump Cult Of Personality. (Like it or loathe it, it is A Thing.)



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: underwerks


I'm not gonna do your research.

But i will say this: No matter what party or person you are.. There are always good and bad decisions.
You guys act like he is the devil himself. Two scoops of icecream for god sake.

Don't you find that a "little" over reacting?



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:59 AM
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This is why Trump will win again.

Not because of the Russians, but because liberals continue to display a profound lack of comprehension for why they lost.

Three simple letters.... HRC.

In 2020, they will lose again because they are on track for the previous four years of only complaining, justifying and excusing that loss. No message on the issues. No forward thinking plan or vision. Only four years of throwing what has to be largest and longest collective bitch session in history.

Keep telling the Trump electorate they are stupid... They'll make sure you never see the Oval Office again.
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posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: Painterz

originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: Painterz

You don't understand because you're WRONG. The fact that the leftist cult will always continue to give each other pats on the back over BS threads such as this is proof of the delusions liberals experience everyday.

Liberalism means freedom? meaning, erase history, throw tantrums when losing and blindly assert opinion as fact? Absolutely not.



But instead you've retreated into fear and lies.

Lmfao, oh the irony.

"No matter how many caps-locks..." really? it was just one word.

"Hatred of all things"
That would be liberals who can't accept our President.
That would be the liberal media and slanderous coverage.
That would be liberal hollywood and seeking suggestions on removing our President by any means.
That would be our liberal leftist users here on ATS who can't see anything beyond their delusions.
That, would be this very thread.

Naw, no echo chambers, just truth and us pointing, laughing at you.
edit on 4-11-2017 by Arnie123 because: heh



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: Painterz

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
It has a predominately right leaning membership who also lean toward conspiracy and as such strong mistrust of government so in terms of our community on ATS, yes you do have a very good point. However I think for the wider electorate not so much.


ATS did not always have the current political slant it has now, I've been here long enough to here the cries of 'oh, this place is so Leftist!!!' more than once.

The wider electorate, whether you are on the right or left, is going to pull the lever for their person, the Russians aren't making them do that, the two party system is and the ones who don't, like me, end up voting for a piece of Australian Socialist cheesecake.



It's interesting isn't it. ATS always used to be anti-establishment. Whoever was in power was suspect and their every scandal or weirdness was questioned thoroughly.

(Unless it was questioning anything Dubya did after 9/11, in which case you were a traitor.)

But now Trump is the establishment, the ATS membership have largely stuck with him. Illustrating interesting things I think about the psychology of the Trump Cult Of Personality. (Like it or loathe it, it is A Thing.)


I think you have hit a nail on the head there.

What should be a place to question everyting has over the years become just another place to force the beliefs of what we should be questioning and resisting.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: loam

True!

And.. i think a major part of Trump winning was that he IS an outsider.
The left does not like that, because they like groups to blame.. so the right is an easier target.
Even the right don; t like Trump because he is interrupting their little powerplay and killing the cash cows.
People were FED UP with the conventional politics and decided to give an outsider a chance.

I still can not understand why people are crying about Trump while the alternative was wat gave us countless wars and corruption.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: Painterz

originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: Painterz

You don't understand because you're WRONG. The fact that the leftist cult will always continue to give each other pats on the back over BS threads such as this is proof of the delusions liberals experience everyday.

Liberalism means freedom? meaning, erase history, throw tantrums when losing and blindly assert opinion as fact? Absolutely not.



But instead you've retreated into fear and lies.

Lmfao, oh the irony.

"No matter how many caps-locks..." really? it was just one word.

"Hatred of all things"
That would be liberals who can't accept our President.
That would be the liberal media and slanderous coverage.
That would be liberal hollywood and seeking suggestions on removing our President by any means.
That would be our liberal leftist users here on ATS who can't see anything beyond their delusions.
That, would be this very thread.

Naw, no echo chambers, just truth and us pointing, laughing at you.


Do you have any idea how many times you use the word liberals and that by constantly blaming "the other side" you only diminish your own points which without all the taking sides the other guys are bad and we are good nonsense you would come across far better.

But you do not care to listen to anyting I have to say because I am just a lefty right?



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: Painterz

I don't think Trump is true establishment. He was not part of the incrowd. Always been an outsider also among the rich.

Thats why a lot of ATS and other people are HOPING this one can make a difference from the douche-bags from both sides we had in the past.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: Painterz

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
It has a predominately right leaning membership who also lean toward conspiracy and as such strong mistrust of government so in terms of our community on ATS, yes you do have a very good point. However I think for the wider electorate not so much.


ATS did not always have the current political slant it has now, I've been here long enough to here the cries of 'oh, this place is so Leftist!!!' more than once.

The wider electorate, whether you are on the right or left, is going to pull the lever for their person, the Russians aren't making them do that, the two party system is and the ones who don't, like me, end up voting for a piece of Australian Socialist cheesecake.



It's interesting isn't it. ATS always used to be anti-establishment. Whoever was in power was suspect and their every scandal or weirdness was questioned thoroughly.

(Unless it was questioning anything Dubya did after 9/11, in which case you were a traitor.)

But now Trump is the establishment, the ATS membership have largely stuck with him. Illustrating interesting things I think about the psychology of the Trump Cult Of Personality. (Like it or loathe it, it is A Thing.)


I think you have hit a nail on the head there.

What should be a place to question everyting has over the years become just another place to force the beliefs of what we should be questioning and resisting.

False.

President Trump has shown he is nothing from the establishment. That would be Hillary and the massive backlash of their groomed one who couldn't take the crown.

The very fact that users overwhelmingly side with Trump is the fact that he is Anti-Established.

Once again, liberal delusions. Take a mirror check.



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