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Trump Supporters Let The Russians Win

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posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

OK mate, whatever you say. Just don't cry and whinge like a baby if and when you're proven wrong and I begin to mercilessly rub it in your faces.




posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: UKTruth

OK mate, whatever you say. Just don't cry and whinge like a baby if and when you're proven wrong and I begin to mercilessly rub it in your faces.


I won't - I'll just link your post here as an example of the crying and whining like a baby to warn others about how silly they could look.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Lol. We'll soon see who eats their hat. My money is on you.

Until then, there is nothing more to discuss.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 03:44 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: UKTruth

Lol. We'll soon see who eats their hat. My money is on you.

Until then, there is nothing more to discuss.


www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: Kryties

So, Facebook was the culprit huh? Sorry, they were suppressing and editing Trump information the entire campaign. Alternative news sites? Why would you visit them. Again, that is NOT what swung the election.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 05:40 PM
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Trump Supporters Let The Russians Win

Is that before or after Team Clinton and the DNC CHEATED their asses off ?

Cause that is what it's all about.

Geezus effing christ.

They marched out ILLEGAL immigrants at the democrat national convention.

Team left paid a foreign SPY for the infamous dossier.

Back to 'russia' nonsense.
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posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: UKTruth

Lol. We'll soon see who eats their hat. My money is on you.

Until then, there is nothing more to discuss.


And you bet we'd see this.



...but we got this.



My bet is on UKTruth for the win.
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posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 06:32 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

You have a short memory and a particularly biased one:

OPINION | STEPHEN KINZER
We’ve been hacking elections for more than a century



Perhaps the most recent US intervention in foreign politics came in Ukraine. In 2014, as protesters gathered there in an effort to overthrow their elected government, a senior State Department official appeared in the crowd to encourage their revolt. She was caught telling an aide which Ukrainian politician was “the guy” Americans had chosen to be Ukraine’s next leader, and asserting that the United States would “midwife this thing.” A few weeks later our “guy” became prime minister — setting off a crisis that ended with Russian military intervention.


www.bostonglobe.com...

And this:



You Americans seem to think you're always on the right side of the coin. Holier than the holy. Cleaner than the clean. More righteous than the righteous.

I am a supporter of Russia reclaiming the Crimea which was part of the Родина since Catherine the Great. Please don't lecture on the topic of interference in elections. Whatever Russia did or didn't do, had virtually no influence on the American electorate. I would wager the fraudulent votes bought and paid for by the DNC was a major contribution to her obtaining the popular vote.

He won. She lost. Get over it.



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posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 07:09 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Since you are of questionable critical think save that of a prog,I can't help you DADA should have covered it,unless HE'S a lost hippie.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

ROFLMAO...wow the delusional rants that the DNC/Shillary fan base have to make up to deflect the real "collusion with Russia which happens to be with the DNC"...

I have got to wonder if Mueller will go after the DNC, after all Tony Podesta (I know this is John's brother) quit from his firm after Mueller's investigation found that Podesta had failed to disclose lobbying for an Ukrainian non-profit, the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine ( a pro-Russian think tank ), which also worked with Manafort.

Reports: Tony Podesta leaves lobbying firm amid Robert Mueller probe

That's not mentioning the fact that it has been found out that the DNC gave total control to Shillary over the DNC before voters were able to decide whether they wanted Shillary or Sanders which means the DNC and Shillary rigged the primaries which equals to corruption...

Or what about the fact that the Shillary/the DNC approached the Russians to try to get dirt on Trump?... But of course when the DNC/ Shillary are found to do this the fan base still make up false claims...



But of course the Hillary/DNC fans have to keep making up claims that "Trump supporters let Russia win"... LOL


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posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:18 PM
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I find it funny that Obama and Hillary meddled in Russian elections as well as others and act astounded when they get payback.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:29 PM
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a reply to: Assessor

This is what I don't get. Why would Obama and Hillary meddle in Russia election when it was them who did the Russia reset?




posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:30 PM
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a reply to: thepixelpusher

What's with the letter H on Trump's version of the cover?



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:31 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Why do you think that threads like this one are made in the mud pit?... But i do wonder, would such a false thread as this one would be labeled as "a hoax" if it had been written in any other section of the forum?



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 08:39 PM
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a reply to: burnsE

Jpeg compression of images mush up thin details. Trust me, the "H" is there as it should be. You should be asking why Newsweek chose to call Hillary "Madam President", relating her possible Presidency to her sex. Sexist don't you think?
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posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 02:45 AM
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a reply to: Phantom423

Crimea was as fair a vote as in NK. the UN and rest of the world minus pro commies still do not recognize it. If the kurds dont get a country neither does Crimea get to leave ukraine.



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 03:16 AM
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I find it funny that people countinue to post love pieces for Hillary on conspiracy forums. Because the majority of people in here have been watching her evilness since the beginning. And we know whats shes been up to for a very, very long time. From Watergate-White Water gate, Clinton Chronicles, Iran Contra, Cocaine galore, The Arkansides, Waco, "Kitty gate", JFK Jr.,and oh my god I could spend a good hour posting them all. Please stop with the BS. We all know Hillary aka Killary. You don't get a nickname like that for being a good person...



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 07:11 AM
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a reply to: abago71

From: www.slate.com....

Robert Mueller’s Brilliant Strategy for Outmaneuvering Trump Pardons



~Jed Handelsman Shugerman is a Fordham law professor and the author of The People’s Courts and shugerblog.com. He is a co-author on an amicus brief in CREW v. Trump.

Some have wondered: Why is special counsel Robert Mueller bringing so few charges against George Papadopoulos and, especially, Paul Manafort?

Papadopoulos is easy. Mueller has charged him with one count of false statement, even though there are a dozen other felonies clearly suggested by his plea stipulations. The quick answer is that Papadopoulos has agreed to be a cooperating witness in exchange for a very short sentence. The maximum sentence for false statement is five years. If Papadopoulos cooperates, Mueller can ask for a short sentence, but if he doesn’t, Mueller can add new charges.

Manafort’s case is less obvious. Andrew McCarthy at National Review is puzzled about Mueller’s charges for Manafort, calling it “curious” that he leaves out so many possible charges, including tax fraud and other forms of fraud. “These omissions do not make sense to me,” McCarthy writes. After reading the Papadopoulos plea agreement, and knowing that Manafort is reportedly an unnamed “high-ranking campaign official” in a series of allegedly incriminating emails, one might imagine a dozen other charges Mueller might be mulling.

McCarthy speculates that Mueller did not charge federal tax fraud because those prosecutions require the involvement of the Department of Justice tax division, which would have been an extra bureaucratic hurdle. I’d add that Mueller might have worried that any additional contact with the main DOJ carried a risk of leaks or obstruction. But for the other potential charges, McCarthy writes, “These [other] omissions do not make sense to me.”

Mueller’s moves may make strategic sense because of a shadow hanging over the entire investigation: the potential that President Donald Trump might use his presidential pardon power to protect possible accomplices in potential crimes.

Mueller knows that Trump can pardon Manafort (or any defendant) in order to relieve the pressure to cooperate with Mueller and to keep them quiet. But Mueller also knows that presidential pardons affect only federal crimes and not state-level crimes. On the one hand, double jeopardy rules under the Fifth Amendment prevent a second prosecution for the same crime, but the doctrine of dual sovereignty allows a state to follow a federal prosecution (and vice versa). So in theory, Manafort and Papadopoulos can’t rely on Trump’s pardons to save them even after a conviction or a guilty plea.

But in practice, state rules can expand double jeopardy protections and limit prosecutions. In fact, New York is such a state. New York is the key state for Mueller because New York has jurisdiction over many alleged or potentially uncovered Trump–Russia crimes (conspiracy to hack/soliciting stolen goods/money laundering, etc.), and New York state Attorney General Eric Schneiderman and New York district attorneys are not politically constrained from pursuing charges.

New York’s Criminal Procedure Law 40.20 states, “A person may not be twice prosecuted for the same offense.” The issue is that New York defines “prosecution” broadly. Section 40.30 continues:

Except as otherwise provided in this section, a person “is prosecuted” for an offense, within the meaning of section 40.20, when he is charged therewith by an accusatory instrument filed in a court of this state or of any jurisdiction within the United States, and when the action either:

(a) Terminates in a conviction upon a plea of guilty; or

(b) Proceeds to the trial stage and a jury has been impaneled and sworn or, in the case of a trial by the court without a jury, a witness is sworn.


The New York statute does not allow a state prosecution to follow a federal prosecution (“a court of any jurisdiction within the United States”) for the same basic facts. The bottom line: If Mueller starts a trial on all of the potential charges, and then Trump pardons Manafort, Mueller will not be able to hand off the case to state prosecutors. And thus he would have lost leverage at the time of the indictment if he seemed headed toward losing the state prosecution as a backup.

Instead, Mueller wisely brought one set of charges (mostly financial crimes that preceded the campaign), and he is saving other charges that New York could also bring (tax fraud, soliciting stolen goods, soliciting/conspiring to hack computers). Mueller also knew that his indictment document on Monday would include a devastating amount of detail on paper without relying on any witnesses to testify, showing Mueller had the goods on a slam-dunk federal money laundering case. Then he dropped the hammer with the Papadopoulos plea agreement, showing Manafort and Gates that he has the goods on far more charges, both in federal and state court.

Papadopoulos conceded that Russian representatives told him they had “dirt,” in “thousands” of Clinton’s emails in April 2016. It is clear—depending on what Papadopoulos has told them—that prosecutors could start building a case of conspiracy and solicitation of illegal hacking and trafficking in stolen goods against campaign officials Papadopoulos may have informed as well.

I discussed some of the parallel state felony charges in this Slate piece (also published in Just Security). In August, sources revealed that Mueller was already coordinating with Schneiderman, likely to work out this strategy. I also noted that all of this legal background is relevant to solve an additional problem: If Trump fires Mueller, state prosecutors can carry on with his investigation and prosecutions based on parallel state laws.

This same strategy adds an explanation for the single Papadopoulos charge. I explained above that a single charge is a classic part of plea deal for cooperation. But Mueller can be saving a number of other charges, both in his own back pocket to incentivize cooperation and also for the front pockets of state-level prosecutors in case Trump gives Papadopoulos a blanket pardon. Mueller is a stone-cold professional.



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posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 09:03 AM
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The Russians won when the last adminstration gave them 20% of our uranium reserves.
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posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Surely you must know that bad satire and bad sarcasm is punishable by death in Russia.

All jokes aside, RT has unabashed anti American sentiments, watch it for yourself and look out for the traitors.




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