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Trump Supporters Let The Russians Win

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posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 03:15 PM
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originally posted by: RogueWaterC1
Bernie would've never beat trump the American people are not interested in Socialism. Only our media and crony politicians are interested in Socialism. If you ask me Bernie was the craziest of them all. reply to: SprocketUK



I probably would have voted Sanders over Trump. You'd be surprised, a lot of Trump voters liked Bernie.


But you Dems sealed the deal by F#$&#+# Sanders and nominating the Wicked Witch of the West.

Brilliant strategy on your part.
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posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

People who are brainwashed by liberal media are the only people who think Russia influenced the election. It just isn't true to any real degree. Ads and ads and ads do NOTHING. Show me one ad where someone later says "Yes, it was that Russian sponsored ad I saw on Facebook that made me vote for Trump" . How dumb can people be to believe this? Oh yeah, the left can be quite that way.

Hillary's corruption, the DNC's corruption, the MSM corruption and fake news and polls, plus Obama corruption and lying scumbags All over the map are what influenced the election.

This is why the ugly hag Hillary lost the election. It wasn't RUSSIA.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 04:02 PM
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a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed


Agreed, people who are susceptible to this type of influence would've been much more like to be exploited via domestic ads and campaign rhetoric. The Russian propaganda made up like 0.01% or something like that, which is nothing. Propaganda and whatnot is a day to day, regularly scheduled intelligence agency activity. The real problem is the grasping for straws by people who are still very shocked that their polls & MSM let them down - without realizing those polls/MSM were intentionally creating this "she's winning, got it in the bag" narrative. That itself was another dirty trick her campaign employed.

It doesn't take a DC insider to realize that their polls/opinions were so far off because of all the click farm trolls/paid supporter/paid posters. We don't need to introduce grandiose Russian conspiracy theories (that simply aren't supported by the facts at hand) to explain the anomalous results. But some would just as soon go down that rabbit hole than acknowledge a very inconvenient truth.

I mean, it is OK that they want to do that. They are certainly entitled to their own opinion, but it would be nice to actually discuss and reason through this as a nation rather than splitting off into the sects/cliques we've seen form.

I remember things went South when Clinton started insulting Trump and Bernie supporters, implying we were somehow "sick" or "stupid" for our voting preference. I mean, every party has made their fair share of mistakes on past nominations (look at the GOP and crazy John McCain) so there is no shame in exploring that possibility and moving forward.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 04:14 PM
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a reply to: nonspecific

In answer to the second question, undoubtedly yes.

As we now know, thanks to Donna Brazille, the Dem party was and is in complete disarray. They had internal strife, and big time money issues. They screwed Brernie at Hillary's behest.

Hillary's campaign lost her the midwest. SHE did that to herself by not even campaigning there, while Trump was holding packed rallies.

She's cold and impersonal, and has the charisma of a snake. She comes off as abrasive, arrogant and elitist.

Russians my a**.

She was simply the worst candidate they could have possibly chosen. I'm an Independent, I have voted Democrat many times in the past. Probably more than I've voted Republican. But my mind was made up about her twice over. First was in the Clinton years with her sick responses to Bill's accusers. Second was when she announced she was running for Senate in NY. I knew at that moment she was aiming for the White House, and so did everyone else. She has always treated it as an entitlement. She expected it to happen.

She had baggage. LOTS of baggage.

The Russians didn't influence anyone to vote against Hillary. Hillary did that just fine on her own.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 04:15 PM
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originally posted by: poncho1982
a reply to: nonspecific

In answer to the second question, undoubtedly yes.

As we now know, thanks to Donna Brazille, the Dem party was and is in complete disarray. They had internal strife, and big time money issues. They screwed Brernie at Hillary's behest.

Hillary's campaign lost her the midwest. SHE did that to herself by not even campaigning there, while Trump was holding packed rallies.

She's cold and impersonal, and has the charisma of a snake. She comes off as abrasive, arrogant and elitist.

Russians my a**.

She was simply the worst candidate they could have possibly chosen. I'm an Independent, I have voted Democrat many times in the past. Probably more than I've voted Republican. But my mind was made up about her twice over. First was in the Clinton years with her sick responses to Bill's accusers. Second was when she announced she was running for Senate in NY. I knew at that moment she was aiming for the White House, and so did everyone else. She has always treated it as an entitlement. She expected it to happen.

She had baggage. LOTS of baggage.

The Russians didn't influence anyone to vote against Hillary. Hillary did that just fine on her own.



Thread Right there.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: pavil

I was actually going to vote for Sanders, for the Same reason I voted for Trump.

Either one was like lobbing a virtual grenade into the Washington DC Machine.

It needed done.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Haha you lost!

Yeah right.... Russia made Hillary spit out green goo and faint on 911.... oh yeah Russia made Bill Clinton a rapist.

Haha.... LOSER!

Russia, Russia, Russia!



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 04:42 PM
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originally posted by: loam
a reply to: AboveBoard

Guess you didn't check in with Bernie, Donna or Elizabeth...or the ocean of other people who say the same.

Baffled why some people continue to hold water for HRC.


I am tired of "Bernie should have won" because, frankly, he lost. He was not robbed. I voted for him in the primaries because I liked some of his ideas. I let it go when he lost, in spite of Russia trying to help him take Dow HRC.

Donna is not a trustworthy person. Elizabeth is not being fair minded and the facts do not bear out for any "Bernie was robbed" narrative.





posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoinPRAY TELL EXACTLY WHAT DID THEY WIN EXCEPT MORE SANCTIONS?
i see no wrong doing here myself and to be honest i think we should stop vilifying Russians if we going to get off this rock we need to stop bickering and break bread with Russia , and china. we also need to stop letting Saudis bankroll proxy wars and dropping beachheads everywhere.




posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: AboveBoard

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: AboveBoard

Guess you didn't check in with Bernie, Donna or Elizabeth...or the ocean of other people who say the same.

Baffled why some people continue to hold water for HRC.


I am tired of "Bernie should have won" because, frankly, he lost. He was not robbed. I voted for him in the primaries because I liked some of his ideas. I let it go when he lost, in spite of Russia trying to help him take Dow HRC.

Donna is not a trustworthy person. Elizabeth is not being fair minded and the facts do not bear out for any "Bernie was robbed" narrative.






It's amazing to me the Loyalty you have to someone who lost the Presidential Election.

You voted for Sanders, yet you don't believe the DNC favored one side over the other?

You have to be blind and deaf quite honestly not to see the evidence. Keep holding water for her.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 05:10 PM
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originally posted by: poncho1982
a reply to: pavil

I was actually going to vote for Sanders, for the Same reason I voted for Trump.

Either one was like lobbing a virtual grenade into the Washington DC Machine.

It needed done.


Exactly.

Trump was just the bigger ordnance. I've always thought Trump should tack left and actually work with Sanders. They'd get a lot done and dismantle the Two Party system faster Comrade. Oops , I'm outed now. If it wasn't for those meddling Democrats, We would have pulled off Putin's Play.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 05:12 PM
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originally posted by: poncho1982
a reply to: nonspecific



She's cold and impersonal, and has the charisma of a snake. She comes off as abrasive, arrogant and elitist.



You are insulting snakes with that comment.

The World and the Country are way better off seeing her fail like she did.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

So the Russians made the DNC, MSM, and Clinton try to subvert an election, hacked and disclosed the evidence of such and in the process swayed the election themselves?

Wow. Is this a movie or something? These Russians are next level.

We need a Keanu Reeves to combat this evil.


So who killed Seth Rich?


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posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 05:27 PM
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a reply to: tadaman

Keanu Reeves is not a strong enough actor to take down the Russians, this is job for Chuck Norris.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: tadaman

Didn't you know tadaman? He was killed in a robbery, and it was just a coincidence that no valuables were actually taken. The suspicion that he may have been the DNC leaker (oh what I'd give for Assange's insurance file) is totally unrelated to his execution. I mean robbery, gone bad.




posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 05:40 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin


I think what you're missing is that Trump supporters were always going to be Trump supporters because they were never going to be Hillary supporters. You don't need the Russians to make you like him and hate her (or vice versa), they do a good job of that on their own.


Something that I always find quite difficult with ATS is that ATS represents a very small proportion of the population.

It has a predominately right leaning membership who also lean toward conspiracy and as such strong mistrust of government so in terms of our community on ATS, yes you do have a very good point. However I think for the wider electorate not so much.


I'm sure you know a lot more about the US voters than a person who travels the county often. How many years did you spent in the US leading up this election?



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin


Trumps supporters have fell for this massive Russian propaganda campaign in the most spectacular way possible and as a result the desired outcome for the Kremlin has been achieved.


Tell me, who got the most votes on November 8th - Trump or Dodgy?

Was it Vlads plan to lose the popular vote and somehow rig the EC vote?

That Vlad, he's a tricky bloke innhe?



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 06:20 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

How retarded and deluded can you be? I swear high high-volume posters like you are the reason this place is #.

"You guys let the Russians win!"

I sincerely hope you don't reproduce.



posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I suppose the ( Dem's ) will be saying the same thing in 2020.....The Russians are coming... The Russians are coming..... ( They rigged it again )... The sky's falling......When He's Re-Elected President Of These United States Of America......

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posted on Nov, 4 2017 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
...and Hillary Supporters Let Soros and the Globalists Win

See how that works. I can create fake boogeymen too.
edit on 4-11-2017 by thepixelpusher because: (no reason given)




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