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Real news vs fake news???

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posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 07:08 PM
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Ok so this is something I truly want to understand

How dose one ever really truly know what "news" is "fake news" or the real deal?

if the msm is controlled. which I think most pretty much all agree on, and everything else on the internet or what not is fake or hoax
what have you
then how can one ever really be certain and decide whats real and whats not?
you can do all the research for yourself you want but in the end someone somewhere is controlling the news
and they all have there own agenda right

Let me know your opinion




posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: DustybudzZ

6 huge corporations control almost all of what Americans see, hear and read.

The truth is what you are told is the truth. Essentially freedom of the press is corporate owned.

Who Owns The Media? The 6 Monolithic Corporations That Control Almost Everything We Watch, Hear And Read


theeconomiccollapseblog.com...




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posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 07:41 PM
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a reply to: DustybudzZ

I find that the Associated Press are as good as can be expected. The least political anyway.



posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: DustybudzZ


then how can one ever really be certain and decide whats real and whats not?


Philosophically: One can't.

Realistically: What people agree on.



posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 07:47 PM
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a reply to: seasonal



6 huge corporations control almost all of what Americans see, hear and read. The truth is what you are told is the truth. Essentially freedom of the press is corporate owned.


It's interesting that the FCC currently has rules in place that limit some of this consolidation. Apparently it hasn't worked too well, but it does limit some local consolidation of news and media outlets. However, FCC Chairman Ajit Pai is planning to revoke this rule.

The Federal Communications Commission will vote next month on ending a rule that prevents joint ownership of newspapers and TV or radio stations in the same geographical market.

The change is part of a larger overhaul of media ownership rules announced yesterday by FCC Chairman Ajit Pai.
Currently, the FCC says its newspaper/broadcast station cross-ownership rule "prohibit[s] common ownership of a daily newspaper and a full-power broadcast station (AM, FM, or TV) if the station's service contour encompasses the newspaper's city of publication."

Pai is proposing to eliminate that rule and others. He announced the move during an FCC oversight hearing in Congress yesterday, saying he wants to "pull the government once and for all out of the newsroom."
Ajit Pai submits plan to allow more media consolidation

Sometimes a little government intervention is a good thing...

-dex



posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 07:51 PM
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You dont need the news, its a distraction from your life (on purpose)

Youd be better off watching anything else or nothing at all

...ESPECIALLY given the way the media is controlled

Go live your life!



posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: DexterRiley

Is it a law if it is not enforced?



posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 08:23 PM
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Hmm... I’d say a combination of all or some of the following, in no particular order, and probably not limited to:

Accuracy - Is it the truth? The whole truth? And nothing but the truth? If not, why not?

Relevance - Is it pertinent, or a distraction? Who is affected and or involved?

Motivation/intent - This part is subjective, but cannot be dismissed. Is there an agenda? If yes, what is it?

Objectivity - Feelings, biases, interpretation, opinion, etc. shouldn’t be a factor in most reporting... Let’s be real, though, objectivity is hard to find, so you need as much info as you can get...

Provability - sources, evidence, etc.

That’s what I got for now...



posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 08:39 PM
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The news isn't necessarily fake, but the spin is terrible.

Even if we don't all agree with each other at least on ATS we get both sides of a news topic vetted and analyzed. I would suggest that ATS is a solid news source.


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posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 08:43 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: DexterRiley

Is it a law if it is not enforced?

I think so.

But the only thing I could think of when I read your reply was "If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?"

It's been a weird day.


-dex



posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 08:55 PM
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a reply to: DexterRiley

My point is there are laws that are for some reason ($) being ignored and it is twisting the freedom of the press in ways that were not intended at founding. Dangerous.



posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 09:03 PM
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Dude,Man You just got to sift through all the BS..Imo just fact check the shi* You read whether it's from the right or left.Facts matter..



posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 09:05 PM
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a reply to: DustybudzZ

Outside of what you can see, touch, taste, feel and hear the truth is whatever lie you choose to believe.



posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 09:06 PM
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originally posted by: DustybudzZ
How dose one ever really truly know what "news" is "fake news" or the real deal?


www.npr.org...



posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 09:09 PM
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If ATS is any indication, any news that is...

favorable to Trump.....honest, fair and balanced, yeehaaw great reporting.

Unfavorable to Trump.....fake news, but,but,but....Hillary, but, but, but.....Obama!

Deny Ignorance...when?
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posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 09:13 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

So fake news is what you disagree with?

Is there an absolute true fact or are facts subjective through a lib or conserv bias that push to the L or the R?



posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: DustybudzZ

Sorry, the news has been cancelled and replaced by the National Enquirer.



posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Agree, but would like to add that it is more insidious than that.

News is used to push and pull public opinion.

Remember-They are throwing babies on the floor.



posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 09:21 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: olaru12

So fake news is what you disagree with?

Is there an absolute true fact or are facts subjective through a lib or conserv bias that push to the L or the R?


It doesn't matter anymore as long as we can agree on one thing....




Now that's news!!! All hail King Alex! And don't forget your strawberry caveman true paleo formula.
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posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 09:31 PM
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Some great post guys thanks


Pretty thought provoking opinions





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