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The Left will come around.

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posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 06:56 PM
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You wouldn't enjoy my work/social media space then. I work in public policy and justicey initiatives. Over my career that has ranged from NGOs to gov. I work with a bunch of politicos. 80% of them are the stereotypical Hillary supporters. In fact, a lot of new hires came off Hillary's election campaign. These people exist.




posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 06:59 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
The day the trumpaholics stop making # up to defend there team, so what im really saying is when hell freezes over.


originally posted by: xuenchen
For the Left to "come around" they have to drain their own swamp.

That means 1000 people need to be exposed.



For anyone to come around people need to start criticizing the dirt and grime within their own teams, whatever team(s) they happen to adhere to in life, rather than wait for the other team to point out the dirties and then react with total denial and deflection. Otherwise the deluded psychopath that emerges in seemingly every The Crowd is to be expected.

That's how to stop the zombie pockylips.




Im going on a date tonight, and just got off the phone with a new contract, im winning.
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posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:00 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

Plenty of the left criticize this stuff, and most Bernie supporters and aCTUAL leftists (not democrats) have been saying this the whole time.


I've been trying, for many years, to convey there being a difference between "Democrat's" (representatives of our elites masters and their agenda(s)) and everyday "liberals" (whom unfortunately too often fall for the agenda(s)), and the same with Republican's/conservatives.

I started writing new thing on it the other day actually, maybe I'll finish it tonight for tomorrow.

The point is the Party's they dont truly represent US, they dont work for US, their BS divides US, they and the cliques they do work for / are stooged with dont give a flying F about any of US, and so on.

Still confused over the concept these "progressives" and how to tell them apart from "liberals", however... and I'm not sure that anybody else is sure either??


Well, first I agree that the leadership is corrupt on both sides.

Progressive means you are in between Democrats (Centrist establishment, pro wall street, pro war) and actual full far left commies/socialists. It generally means you are more left than mainstream Democrats.

It also usually means you are anti-war, for campaign finance reform, for environmental causes, for an economic regime that reduces income inequality, etc. A good example of the more left version of that would be Green Party.

Bernie is a good example of a progressive, his values.
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posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:03 PM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14


You wouldn't enjoy my work/social media space then. I work in public policy and justicey initiatives. Over my career that has ranged from NGOs to gov. I work with a bunch of politicos. 80% of them are the stereotypical Hillary supporters. In fact, a lot of new hires came off Hillary's election campaign. These people exist.


I work with engineers.

Most don't remember to wear pants.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:03 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
For the Left to "come around" they have to drain their own swamp.

That means 1000 people need to be exposed.



While yes there are tons of corrupt faux liberals that need to be exposed, I assure you that the swamp is deep on the right too..



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:05 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: network dude



And yes, we defend Trump against the hate and lies, even though he says stupid things and has little tact.


You also defend his hate and lies. That seems to be inconsistent.



Because we understand that it could have been her, and that would have been awful. Everything would be for sale.


Everything still is "for sale". Trump has not changed anything. Lobbyists still run DC and even though the Reps run the fricken government, they get nothing done.

Trump has not changed that one bit.



I know I hope the left finds some good leadership.


Me too. It would be nice to find real Leftists in this country that could step up and take the Left back to the Left where they belong. Right now they are a center-of-right bunch of pansy douchebags that are so scared to introduce real Leftists ideas that their governance is practically useless.

Right Wing propaganda in this country, and elsewhere, has been so effective that the mere mention of socialism scares-off even those that claim to be a Leftist.


Thank you! yes Trump is PART of the establishment, and all the corruption.

And yes, real leftists. I'm trying to correct the record too. The Democrats are center/center-rightists. On their pro war pro wall street policies they are right wing just like the Republicans.

Identity politics is the smoke screen used to appear for poor people and minorities.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:11 PM
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Lol, you might be lucky though. I assume they don't treat their work space as one big identity politics safe space?



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:13 PM
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Was EIGHT years of Obama that god awful?

Clinton would have been more of the same old, same old.

But no, some people couldn't STAND to have first a black main in the WH, and then a ...*GASP* woman!

To much, To fast. To much for some to accept.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy




It's a pity, but nothing short of a zombie apocalypse will reunite the country.


Well that will depend on where the first outbreak was...California?



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:17 PM
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a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Ever BEEN to a trailerpark in the SOuth?

Zombies exist bruh. Meth is a HELL of a drug.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:19 PM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: network dude



And yes, we defend Trump against the hate and lies, even though he says stupid things and has little tact.


You also defend his hate and lies. That seems to be inconsistent.



Because we understand that it could have been her, and that would have been awful. Everything would be for sale.


Everything still is "for sale". Trump has not changed anything. Lobbyists still run DC and even though the Reps run the fricken government, they get nothing done.

Trump has not changed that one bit.



I know I hope the left finds some good leadership.


Me too. It would be nice to find real Leftists in this country that could step up and take the Left back to the Left where they belong. Right now they are a center-of-right bunch of pansy douchebags that are so scared to introduce real Leftists ideas that their governance is practically useless.

Right Wing propaganda in this country, and elsewhere, has been so effective that the mere mention of socialism scares-off even those that claim to be a Leftist.


Thank you! yes Trump is PART of the establishment, and all the corruption.

And yes, real leftists. I'm trying to correct the record too. The Democrats are center/center-rightists. On their pro war pro wall street policies they are right wing just like the Republicans.

Identity politics is the smoke screen used to appear for poor people and minorities.


It is a smoke screen and those of us on the Left that want to push for real policies that help people, instead of killing them, we are compared to Stalin and Mao.

The Right Wing needs to step away from the propaganda and the Left needs to grow a pair of balls.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:20 PM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14


Lol, you might be lucky though. I assume they don't treat their work space as one big identity politics safe space?


Uh no.

Usually it's more like RadioShack barfed on a bunch of tables.




posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:20 PM
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originally posted by: DanteGaland
Was EIGHT years of Obama that god awful?

Clinton would have been more of the same old, same old.

But no, some people couldn't STAND to have first a black main in the WH, and then a ...*GASP* woman!

To much, To fast. To much for some to accept.


Ah yes,

People saying crap like this drove masses to vote against you. Keep telling everyone how racist, sexist, and unwelcome they are in your party if they disagree with the crazy identity politics and hatred then wonder why you loose elections???



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:22 PM
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The Democrat Party lays in ruins. The Democrat Party will openly become the Communist Party for all intents and purposes, with Putin steering their ship from afar.

The unprecedented anti-Americanism that guided the Obama administration has set the tone for their Party. One that pleads for time before a Putin messenger so they can prove their loyalty after the next election. It was caught on live mic. The most shameful moment in the Office of the Presidency, bar none.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP
The Democrat Party lays in ruins. The Democrat Party will openly become the Communist Party for all intents and purposes, with Putin steering their ship from afar.

The unprecedented anti-Americanism that guided the Obama administration has set the tone for their Party. One that pleads for time before a Putin messenger so they can prove their loyalty after the next election. It was caught on live mic. The most shameful moment in the Office of the Presidency, bar none.


Perfect example of how the Right needs to back away from the propaganda.

You even managed to get Communism in there for good measure.

Bravo...



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: DanteGaland

Rather than making it sound like a reaction to some faux quota minority inclusion thing; maybe people were questioning the skeletons of the Clintons?


(post by TinfoilTP removed for a serious terms and conditions violation)

posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:30 PM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

Plenty of the left criticize this stuff, and most Bernie supporters and aCTUAL leftists (not democrats) have been saying this the whole time.


I've been trying, for many years, to convey there being a difference between "Democrat's" (representatives of our elites masters and their agenda(s)) and everyday "liberals" (whom unfortunately too often fall for the agenda(s)), and the same with Republican's/conservatives.

I started writing new thing on it the other day actually, maybe I'll finish it tonight for tomorrow.

The point is the Party's they dont truly represent US, they dont work for US, their BS divides US, they and the cliques they do work for / are stooged with dont give a flying F about any of US, and so on.

Still confused over the concept these "progressives" and how to tell them apart from "liberals", however... and I'm not sure that anybody else is sure either??


Well, first I agree that the leadership is corrupt on both sides.

Progressive means you are in between Democrats (Centrist establishment, pro wall street, pro war) and actual full far left commies/socialists. It generally means you are more left than mainstream Democrats.

It also usually means you are anti-war, for campaign finance reform, for environmental causes, for an economic regime that reduces income inequality, etc. A good example of the more left version of that would be Green Party.

Bernie is a good example of a progressive, his values.


Okay.

So then we have Identity Politick mania sorts, which sorting out this 'new thing' of the decade has stirred in me this confusion over liberal/progressive.

It's caused me to coin this "Nu-Liberal" term, as Neo-Liberalism isnt a new thing. It's merely the covert coup de tat operations ying / to the Neo-Conservatives overt military intervention operations yang (and an economic imperialism philosophy that unites the two).

I havent had anyone argue me against the term; I try to make it obvious what I mean when I use it.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

ROLFMFAO!

Is that thing real?

It looks real

Some people would actually use it, and then there's multiple potential cynical layers to it.


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posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: DanteGaland
Was EIGHT years of Obama that god awful?

Clinton would have been more of the same old, same old.

But no, some people couldn't STAND to have first a black main in the WH, and then a ...*GASP* woman!

To much, To fast. To much for some to accept.


Ah yes,

People saying crap like this drove masses to vote against you. Keep telling everyone how racist, sexist, and unwelcome they are in your party if they disagree with the crazy identity politics and hatred then wonder why you loose elections???



Why does this drive people to vote for someone that is possibly the dumbest person to ever hold office?



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