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Hillary Clinton Robbed Bernie Sanders Of The Democratic Nomination, According to Donna Brazile

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posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:28 PM
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Who thinks these dems would have admitted to screwing Bernie over had Hillary won?

Of course, then all who said that Bernie got screwed would have just been "conspiracy theorists"




posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:29 PM
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What about voter rolls being purged? In Brooklyn Sander's home.

Beyond that, I think you aren't looking at the media coverage objectively. Sanders supporters were presented as bernie-bros, as white frat guys, and racists even, or, "hardcore leftists." The media constantly played the line about it was sexist not to support Clinton. They also did NOT cover the real problems with Clinton, from corruption to war mongering. It was not real journalism.

There are wikileak emails that demonstrate the DNC influencing the media for Clinton as well. Just watch the media coverage by the same sources now. It's still biased towards the establishment DNC, excepting maybe Fox News and independent outlets. Maybe a few regional conservative papers, etc.


originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Who says I don't "hold the DNC responsible"? I stated above several times that those who violated ethics or laws should pay the price.

If they're guilty of ethical violations, they should be removed from the Party and prevented from ever running on a Democratic ticket again.

If they're guilty of legal violations, they should be charged, prosecuted and if found guilty, punished.

What else do I need to say? Unlike some here, I don't believe in ANY politician, every single one of them from local dog-catcher to President of the United States is a psychopathic lying power-freak in my book.

I used to think I was helping to preserve the validity of the ATS forums by fighting against lies and fallacies here.

edit on 2-11-2017 by Quetzalcoatl14 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:31 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Xcathdra

It's election fraud, or a show election, duping the public into thinking it has a choice in the matter. This is pure corruption, something found only in dictatorial regimes.


It's not election fraud under the law. Arguably it was duping the public (Democrats) into thinking the DNC was impartial though. It is corruption but the "dictatorial regime" bit is pure hyperbole.


I'm not so certain that, if a group of states wanted to file a class action suit to recoup their money spent on the Dem primary, that they would get shut out at the show cause portion of the suit. I believe that it would go to a full civil jury trial, possibly forcing the DNC to settle. It may not have been criminal, but misleading practices may leave them liable.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:31 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
Who thinks these dems would have admitted to screwing Bernie over had Hillary won?

Of course, then all who said that Bernie got screwed would have just been "conspiracy theorists"


For all eternity.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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I'm still waiting for anyone to show one Primary or one Caucus that was "rigged" against Sanders.

This is repeated over and over and over. I know why the liars backing up the right-wing media narrative are doing it, but surely, moderates, liberals and Democrats here can show us which election was fraudulent. Right?

Or is that all just more of the ever popular "anti-Clinton" narrative? And before you waste time on stupid claims that I'm pro-Hillary Clinton again, she is and was a psychotic liar who likely has committed heinous criminal acts ... just not the silly fringe garbage that the RW media chamber echoes.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:33 PM
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originally posted by: ausername

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DJMSN

originally posted by: Annee
Bernie had no business running as a Democrat. He's not a Democrat. He's never been a Democrat.

Why should Bernie get special treatment.




That maybe...however...I feel as the DNC robbed themselves of the White House. I am an independent with a strong conservative bend and liked Bernie and was prepared to vote for him instead of Mr Trump as were many of my friends.


Research Bernie. I mean, seriously, research Bernie.

Both Trump supporters and Bernie supporters voted for an Idea/Ideology - - - with a candidate that is not qualified.


Was Hillary qualified, or just simply entitled?



Ever read any of her policy documents? That might be the place to start if you're not parroting a media narrative.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

What about the voter rolls in Bernie's home? Make an argument; post some evidence.

I've provided evidence from an extensive study that demonstrated that Clinton was negatively treated in the press. Beyond that, it's your opinion versus mine.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: Arizonaguy

What would the States sue for again?



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

We get and admission from the former head of the DNC that the DNC was rigged against Bernie, and you blame the right wing media?

Hahahahaha!!!!



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
I'm still waiting for anyone to show one Primary or one Caucus that was "rigged" against Sanders.

This is repeated over and over and over. I know why the liars backing up the right-wing media narrative are doing it, but surely, moderates, liberals and Democrats here can show us which election was fraudulent. Right?

Or is that all just more of the ever popular "anti-Clinton" narrative? And before you waste time on stupid claims that I'm pro-Hillary Clinton again, she is and was a psychotic liar who likely has committed heinous criminal acts ... just not the silly fringe garbage that the RW media chamber echoes.


I think you are conflating two things. When people say the "primaries were rigged," They aren't referring literally to just the voting station, rolls, or caucuses. They are referring to the DNC affair, DNC email leaks, etc.

You are focusing in on a literal meaning to obscure what people are actually referring to.

Again, it isn't a fair race if the media and party are skewed towards Hillary.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: Gryphon66
I'm still waiting for anyone to show one Primary or one Caucus that was "rigged" against Sanders.

This is repeated over and over and over. I know why the liars backing up the right-wing media narrative are doing it, but surely, moderates, liberals and Democrats here can show us which election was fraudulent. Right?

Or is that all just more of the ever popular "anti-Clinton" narrative? And before you waste time on stupid claims that I'm pro-Hillary Clinton again, she is and was a psychotic liar who likely has committed heinous criminal acts ... just not the silly fringe garbage that the RW media chamber echoes.


I think you are conflating two things. When people say the "primaries were rigged," They aren't referring literally to just the voting station, rolls, or caucuses. They are referring to the DNC affair, DNC email leaks, etc.

You are focusing in on a literal meaning to obscure what people are actually referring to.

Again, it isn't a fair race if the media and party are skewed towards Hillary.


Oh he knows this.

He knows that no one is claiming russia or trump changed any votes or ballots, and yet he has went post after post after post screaming about that.

But now that the DNC did this, if no ballots were changed, then the election was legit.

Hypocrisy at its finest!



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

To recover the cost of holding primaries for an election that had a predetermined outcome.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:48 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: Gryphon66

We get and admission from the former head of the DNC that the DNC was rigged against Bernie, and you blame the right wing media?

Hahahahaha!!!!


We got a misleading admission, more than likely.

Donna Brazile makes it seem as if this deal was news to her because of DWS' incompetence, and she deeply regretted having to deliver this revelation to Bernie on the phone....

...She 'lit a candle and turned on some background gospel music' to prepare for the absolutely gut-wrenching conversation.

What she didn't admit is that, of course, she knew that Hillary was the chosen nominee and had every written and unwritten deal to that end.

And Bernie knew.

And they were both willing participants in the effort to deliver Hillary the nomination.

I think people should not be so quick to buy the narrative. Especially one brought to us by Politico and authored by Donna Brazile.
edit on 11/2/2017 by MotherMayEye because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

I’m not conflating anything. Clinton and Sanders were on every ballot for every Primary in every State.

Clinton and Sanders were available in every Caucus in every State.

Democrats voted; Clinton won.

Dredging up all the intangibles that might have had an effect or could have influenced someone this way or that really proves nothing.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:51 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye

I think people should not be so quick to buy the narrative. Especially one brought to us by Politico and authored by Donna Brazile.


Don’t worry, they will turn their coats back the other way soon enough.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:52 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
I'm still waiting for anyone to show one Primary or one Caucus that was "rigged" against Sanders.



The coin flip decisions.




posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




And before you waste time on stupid claims that I'm pro-Hillary Clinton again, she is and was a psychotic liar who likely has committed heinous criminal acts ...



Yea you keep repeating this whopper in just about every anti Hillary thread.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: ausername

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DJMSN

originally posted by: Annee
Bernie had no business running as a Democrat. He's not a Democrat. He's never been a Democrat.

Why should Bernie get special treatment.




That maybe...however...I feel as the DNC robbed themselves of the White House. I am an independent with a strong conservative bend and liked Bernie and was prepared to vote for him instead of Mr Trump as were many of my friends.


Research Bernie. I mean, seriously, research Bernie.

Both Trump supporters and Bernie supporters voted for an Idea/Ideology - - - with a candidate that is not qualified.


Was Hillary qualified, or just simply entitled?



Ever read any of her policy documents? That might be the place to start if you're not parroting a media narrative.

I saw the DNC and Podesta emails that wikileaks aired out.
I saw Hillary get tossed into her van like a sack of potatoes once on the news.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:55 PM
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originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: Gryphon66

To recover the cost of holding primaries for an election that had a predetermined outcome.


Democrats voted; how is that a “predetermined outcome”?

Sanders lost in the delegate count BEFORE superdelegates were considered.



posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 07:58 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Gryphon66




And before you waste time on stupid claims that I'm pro-Hillary Clinton again, she is and was a psychotic liar who likely has committed heinous criminal acts ...



Yea you keep repeating this whopper in just about every anti Hillary thread.


... and here you are with pointless off-topic snark from the sidelines again.
edit on 2-11-2017 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



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