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Wubbel was following hospital policy when she told Payne he needed a warrant or the consent of the patient to draw blood after a July 26 car crash. The patient was not under arrest or suspected of wrongdoing.
Payne had neither. He eventually dragged Wubbels outside and handcuffed her as she screamed that she had done nothing wrong.
She was released without being charged but has said the incident left her feeling terrified and bullied. In a call for changes, Wubbel and her lawyer released the video they had obtained through a public records request.
Salt Lake City Police Chief Mike Brown has since apologized and fired Payne after an internal investigation found he violated department policies. Brown said in a disciplinary letter that he was "deeply troubled" by Payne's conduct, which he said brought "significant disrepute" on the department. Payne is appealing that decision, saying the firing was an unfair reaction to the negative publicity.
seems shes using some of the money to help increase access to body camera footage in the future in Utah based on how much of a help it was to her in her case
SALT LAKE CITY — The University of Utah nurse at the center of a highly controversial arrest that was recorded on the officers' body cameras has reached a $500,000 settlement with all parties involved. In addition, Alex Wubbels announced Tuesday afternoon that she will use part of that money to launch a new initiative to make body camera video more accessible to all residents in Utah involved in a police incident.
so as xcehedra (sorry for spelling it wrong) said that aspect is far from over and he did rightfully call that the officer would appeal his firing so hoping he will offer input on how he thinks this is gonna go from here
SALT LAKE CITY — A Utah police detective has formally appealed the decision to fire him after he was caught on video roughly handcuffing a nurse because she refused to allow him to draw blood from an unconscious patient, his lawyer said Friday. Detective Jeff Payne asked to appear before a Salt Lake City employment board to make the case that his termination went too far and happened because the body-camera footage drew widespread attention and criticism online, lawyer Greg Skordas said. The video shows Payne arresting nurse Alex Wubbels on July 26 after she explained that hospital policy wouldn’t allow him to take the blood for a car-crash investigation without a warrant or patient consent. Payne had neither, but he insisted. The dispute ended with him dragging her outside while she screamed that she’d done nothing wrong.
so on this its also not done but i give him better odds then payne
The watch commander who was on duty when a Salt Lake City police officer arrested a University Hospital nurse last summer is appealing his demotion, claiming it was “excessive discipline.” Lt. James Tracy was demoted to the rank of officer last month after the police chief determined Tracy made the “completely unreasonable” order that Detective Jeff Payne arrest nurse Alex Wubbels on July 26, after she refused to allow Payne to draw a patient’s blood. The encounter garnered national outrage after body camera footage was released by Wubbels’ attorney in August. Tracy’s attorney, Edward Brass, filed documents Oct. 13 appealing Chief Mike Brown’s decision. He provided a copy of the documents to The Tribune on Wednesday.
originally posted by: SlowNail
Wasn't it said that the patient was an innocent driver, injured in a police chase?
Supposedly, they wanted to put him at fault with the blood sample.
originally posted by: pravdaseeker
Dear ATS Readers, Writers,
Well, some good news after all! S&F for this one mate.
I think she could have got more, but the lesson is out there, and the legal precedent set.
Firing of the police officer was the correct move.
It was not long after 9-11 that the cops where I was from in the USA started "changing".
All of the good cops, the ones that you could talk to for years in the stores etc, all started retiring early, or, becoming store security, or private Detectives, or Court Bailiffs, et, etc.
I asked a lot of them, but two told me they were being asked to do things to citizens that "went against" their old time cop beliefs..
When I was a kid, in the late 60's, it was OK to talk to a policeman, and they were nice and friendly folks. Compare that to these times.... you call the police because you need them for to help you, and you stand a good chance of getting killed by the police you called for help!
Let's just say, it is a much more dangerous situation in these times. But, to give credit it's due too, the police are up against a much more dangerous environment than the late 60's...
Heck mate, at times a few years ago there were ice zombies eating peoples faces, or bath salts or some crazy stuff they were taking. In the 60's cops broke up fist fights after school, brought home kids caught shoplifting to their parents to be punished...instead of locking them up...they still got in trouble, had to go to court, but didn't get all drug through the scum, locked up and bad food etc, etc. Normal crimes, burglary, traffic tickets, drunk drivers...not trying to stop someone running over people with his/her car for example.
Anyhow, the "good cops" got out of the field work, after 9-11, in my opinion. The ones left over, and most new recruits are willing to be much more physical, and use basically military tactics, because crimes and incidents take on a more military feeling and casualty rate.
Need an "army" to defeat and army of extremists, god forbid..but this is one reason why they have gotten so "mean".
But it still is no excuse for how this nurse was treated; especially when she was in the right all along! Grrr...
Being a policeman these days would be a very difficult job I reckon at times. You really can't afford to make any mistakes as a police officer. Danged if you do, and danged if you don't.
The police in Oz are still most all pretty friendly folks...then again I haven't been pulled over either..Ha! We get those random breath tests and etc here...especially during holiday seasons... keeps the drunks off the road.
Thanks for this post and thread on the follow up on the nurse!
a reply to: RalagaNarHallas
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Xcathdra
Fair call, the numbers are what makes it difficult. It's hard to make a realistic judgement call from a place of ignorance. I don't live that life, I judge it from a base that makes sense to me.
I'm trying to wrap my head around it, give me time I may even get it.
So to be non reactive let me throw pebbles from my glasshouse, at least they are not rocks.
The video of the December 2016 arrest in Hamilton Hill, in Perth, was played in court last month as the arrested pair faced charges of assaulting police, obstruction, and providing false particulars.
It showed the officers kicking the woman and punching the man up to 20 times.
The man involved was fined $100 for obstructing police, but the other charges were thrown out.
The magistrate criticised testimony given by the three constables during the court session on October 10.
Following a review of the video and court transcripts the Internal Affairs Unit has launched a renewed investigation into the conduct of the three officers.
They have been stood aside and restricted to non-operational duties pending the outcome of the probe.
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Xcathdra
Other than psychos gravitate to positions of power I'm missing your point.
They recently made a TV series called "underbelly " it became very popular and subsequently there have been many series .
I'm under no illusions of corruption.