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Manafort, Gates Plead Not Guilty To All 12 Counts in Russia Probe

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posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Oh such a perfect MSNBC story !!





posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 04:16 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: carewemust

Papadopoulas was never employed by the campaign.

Manafort charges are from 2013, pre dating Trump.
So the criminal activity took place while Obama was POTUS.




Here read this......there sure the hell is more trouble brewing. PAID OR NOT, He was one of trumps foreign advisors who met with trump and emailed and called Russia repeatedly, In case you didn't notice he pled guilty.
www.yahoo.com...








posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: kurthall

So he was repeatedly trying to set Trump up?

That's exactly what I said on page 1



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 04:32 PM
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a reply to: kurthall

Trump's people saw that guy coming a mile away.



They sprayed him right away



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 08:34 PM
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Read through the posts then went and read the indictments. They had gained a lot of wealth from Ukraine up until 2014. Most everything after that is sort of money laundering to get money into their pockets from accounts they had not reported foreign payments coming in. Much of this is tax evasion and unreported ties to other countries before 2015. Nothing shows payments after 2015 from what I can see, but there was a government change in the Ukraine back then so it is no surprise. The FBI was doing their homework on this.

But this happened before Trump was even running for the presidency. I do not see any acquired money since then, it doesn't mean it does not exist though. If someone is lobbying for a foreign country they are supposed to get the right paperwork done. It seems that people in Washington DC do not follow the laws. Well, DC is a collection of the best deceivers in this country, so it is no surprise to me.

The incidents seem more related to Obama's administration lobbying. It does not appear that Trump's administration was involved, although manafort may have been paid to try to steer the campaign towards better Russia relations. But there was not any evidence to show that was happening, it appears that the money came into his accounts a few years ago already.

Money laundering is mentioned, but there was no information given that he was giving it to anyone, so the only money he laundered was his own. I wonder what he did during the Obama administration to earn that sort of money?



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Cant tell if serious or sarcastic... Maybe Trump is an idiot-savant with aspergers?

Is it wrong that I almost dont care at all if manafort and related goons are charged or not? It seems to me the criminal heads are never brought to justice anyhow, so this is just meat for the masses. Carry on.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 09:17 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Good summation. Which makes me wonder
Why the FBI Needed a special counsel to find this.

Seems they could have done this at least a few years ago.
edit on 30-10-2017 by burntheships because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 09:21 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: burntheships

Who was the president of the United States when the all of this alleged collusion and Scandal was occurring?

Nixon?
Did I win?



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

That matters why? Your deflection is noted but meaningless



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 09:23 PM
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originally posted by: defiythelie
a reply to: carewemust

That matters why? Your deflection is noted but meaningless

Interesting that the deflections are very strong. I'll give that their deflections are very good.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 09:23 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: rickymouse

Good summation. Which makes,me wonder
Why the FBI Needed a special counsle to find this.

Seems they could have done this at least a few years ago?





Yeah, but friends of politicians need high paying jobs too.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 09:24 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: carewemust

Papadopoulas was never employed by the campaign.

Manafort charges are from 2013, pre dating Trump.
So the criminal activity took place while Obama was POTUS.




Wrong mana forts charges range up to 2016. He also has ties to Trump that predate the election. He has lived rent free in trump tower going back to 2013.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 09:25 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Exactly...
And can't hurt to have friends in high places either.






posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 09:27 PM
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a reply to: defiythelie

Rent free eh?

You have the ledger on that?
Or a source?

Even if true does not tie Trump to Manaforts accused wrong,doing.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 09:28 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: defiythelie

Rent free eh?

You have the ledger on that?
Or a source?

Even if true does not tie Trump to Manaforts accused wrong,doing.


Waiting on Hillary's wrong doings.
LOL.

edit on 10/30/2017 by Deaf Alien because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

Manafort living in Trump Tower was part of the plan to keep him in a comfort zone.

Trump strategy 201.




posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 10:18 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: burntheships

Manafort living in Trump Tower was part of the plan to keep him in a comfort zone.

Trump strategy 201.


Hillary used to live in Trump Tower.
LOL
Panic everywhere!!!



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 10:23 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

The Burden of Proof is in Herr Mueller's Hands now . His Aim has Always been a Fishing Expedition Looking for ANY Dirt on Our Honorable President . How Long will this Farce be Allowed to go on ? THE PEOPLE Want to Know !
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posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 10:23 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

At least you used Hillary as a good deflection.
I will give you that one.
No hope for Trump now.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 10:35 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

There is No deflection from this Woman's Past , it is Well Documented . The Woman is a Criminal . Case Closed . So when is she going on Trial Herr Mueller ?





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