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Manafort Charged by FBI

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posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: elementalgrove
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

And this shall lead to the perverted Podesta bros!



Yep.

Even anti-Trump politico comnected the dots and foreshadowed this long ago.




The AP obtained emails showing that Manafort and his deputy, Rick Gates, directed the work of the Podesta Group and another lobbying firm, Mercury.


www.politico.com...





posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: Deny Arrogance

It's happening!

www.politico.com...



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:17 PM
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There is nothing in the indictments thus far that implicates Trump himself directly ... but what is clear, as has been said all along, is that key members of his campaign did collude with agents of the Russian government under the direction of Putin himself to interfere in our electoral process.

All the denials for the last ten months were incorrect; continuing denials will be dishonest.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:18 PM
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originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: soberbacchus

A ton of speculation with no evidence.


A ton of evidence with speculation.


Even Democrats have said there's no evidence of collusion.


Democrats (big brush) have said there are no conclusions of collusion, not that there is no evidence suggesting the same.

The little that we know publicly alone is "evidence" of collusion.
Whether that evidence leads to the conclusion of "collusion" remains to be seen.

Clear thinking is something worth practicing.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:19 PM
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FOX News just reported that Podesta just stepped down as head of The Podesta Group



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:19 PM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
With regards to the Podesta Group and John Podesta:


The filings, obtained by POLITICO, appear to clean up the firm’s requirement to disclose its role in foreign lobbying that Manafort reportedly orchestrated. The Podesta Group said it believed its client was an unaffiliated European think tank. But the new paperwork suggests the Justice Department has information tying the think tank to the pro-Russian Ukrainian Party of Regions — a possible source of continuing legal trouble for Manafort, because he never disclosed his own role in the lobbying campaign.

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Last November, the Podesta Group updated its disclosures about lobbying work for India after contacts between its chairman, Tony Podesta, and his brother, Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, surfaced in the latter’s hacked emails. More recently, Michael Flynn, Trump’s short-lived national security adviser, retroactively disclosed lobbying that benefited the government of Turkey after initially filing under the LDA instead of FARA.


Politico

Now we just have to wait a bit to find out who Company A and Company B are and to what extent they are culpable.


By far the biggest revelation in the indictment.

And yet no one seem to want to talk about it.

Manafort was working as a Kremlin agent with two companies to influence american politicians, and no one seems interested.

Unbelievable.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: ZenTam
FOX News just reported that Podesta just stepped down as head of The Podesta Group


Politico confirming as well.

www.politico.com...

Hilarious the amount of irony involved in this thread and topic.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:22 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
There is nothing in the indictments thus far that implicates Trump himself directly ...


Agreed, but this is part of the Money Laundering scheme.
Real Estate transactions in order to make hidden money liquid and usable in the USA.
Purchase property with shell corp and then take out loan from co-conspirator for an inflated amount and not pay it back.

And this still looks like Hush-Money to me. Timed for the same day Manafort was forced to resign from the campaign.

SEE HERE FROM MAY:



On August 19, 2016, Manafort left the Trump campaign amid media reports about his previous work for a pro-Russian political party in Ukraine, including allegations he received millions of dollars in payments.

That same day, Manafort created a holding company called Summerbreeze LLC.

Several weeks later, a document called a UCC filed with the state of New York shows that Summerbreeze took out a $3.5 million loan on Manafort’s home in the tony beach enclave of Bridgehampton.

Manafort’s name does not appear on the UCC filing, but Summerbreeze LLC gives his Florida address as a contact, and lists his Bridgehampton home as collateral.

A review of New York state and Suffolk County records shows the loan was made by S C 3, a subsidiary of Spruce Capital,

which was co-founded by Joshua Crane, who has partnered with Donald Trump on real estate deals.

Spruce is also partially funded by Ukrainian-American real-estate magnate Alexander Rovt, who tried to donate $10,000 to Trump’s presidential campaign on Election Day but had all but the legal maximum of $2,700 returned.

www.nbcnews.com...



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:22 PM
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originally posted by: Throes
a reply to: Deny Arrogance

It's happening!

www.politico.com...


Shhhh...

Dont stop the Trump bash.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Throes
a reply to: Deny Arrogance

It's happening!

www.politico.com...


Shhhh...

Dont stop the Trump bash.



You were called out directly many times about how much you were relying on Fox News and right wing media when in actuality, you were relying on solid information in the indictment. Ridiculous.
edit on 30-10-2017 by Throes because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: soberbacchus

A ton of speculation with no evidence.


A ton of evidence with speculation.


Even Democrats have said there's no evidence of collusion.


Democrats (big brush) have said there are no conclusions of collusion, not that there is no evidence suggesting the same.

The little that we know publicly alone is "evidence" of collusion.
Whether that evidence leads to the conclusion of "collusion" remains to be seen.

Clear thinking is something worth practicing.




So a ton of evidence, and literally the next thing you say is "what little we know publicly".

No evidence, even Democrats acknowledge this. You can believe all the fairy tales you want, but there's no evidence.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: Throes
a reply to: Deny Arrogance

It's happening!

www.politico.com...


New thread here.

Thanks for the link!



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: ZenTam
FOX News just reported that Podesta just stepped down as head of The Podesta Group

Anyone want to bet on if he's planned his "retirement" somewhere outside US jurisdiction?

He did the same stuff Paul Manafort did, only for the Democrats.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: face23785



Nothing revealed so far indicates this at all. You could just as effectively blame David Spade.


David Spade wasn't going around saying how much he loved WikiLeaks and asking Russia to find Hillary's other emails. David Spade didn't have a supporter like Cambridge Analytics trying to coordinate with WikiLeaks. David Spade didn't broker a deal to change the RNC platform to benefit Russia.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:30 PM
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha

Wolf Blitzer said something about "Any information that Trump is going to fuc....fire Mueller"

LOL LOL LOL

No doubt what he just said,,, I had to rewind it to make sure.... talk about freudian slips
edit on R372017-10-30T12:37:18-05:00k3710Vpm by RickinVa because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: Throes

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Throes
a reply to: Deny Arrogance

It's happening!

www.politico.com...


Shhhh...

Dont stop the Trump bash.



You were called out directly many times about how much you were relying on Fox News and right wing media when in actuality, you were relying on solid information in the indictment. Ridiculous.


I know.

We will see if those that said discussing the Podesta group and Muellers investigation of them made someone a traitor deflecting from Muellers investigation will admit they were wrong.

I wont hold my breath.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:31 PM
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Hmmmmm....




posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: RickinVa
Ha ha ha ha ha ha

Wolf Blitzer said something about "Trump is going to fuc....fire Mueller"

LOL LOL LOL

No doubt what he just said,,, I had to rewind it to make sure.... talk about freudian slips

Care for a slice of pizza, Wolf?



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:34 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: face23785



Nothing revealed so far indicates this at all. You could just as effectively blame David Spade.


David Spade wasn't going around saying how much he loved WikiLeaks and asking Russia to find Hillary's other emails. David Spade didn't have a supporter like Cambridge Analytics trying to coordinate with WikiLeaks. David Spade didn't broker a deal to change the RNC platform to benefit Russia.




Wait wait, where did anyone mention Wikileaks or the RNC? You're deflecting!!!!



Sorry, couldn't resist.

Funny none of this stuff was mentioned in neither the Manafort nor the Papadopolous indictment. Are you alleging any of those actions are crimes? Might want to alert Mr. Mueller.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:35 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
With regards to the Podesta Group and John Podesta:


The filings, obtained by POLITICO, appear to clean up the firm’s requirement to disclose its role in foreign lobbying that Manafort reportedly orchestrated. The Podesta Group said it believed its client was an unaffiliated European think tank. But the new paperwork suggests the Justice Department has information tying the think tank to the pro-Russian Ukrainian Party of Regions — a possible source of continuing legal trouble for Manafort, because he never disclosed his own role in the lobbying campaign.

...

Last November, the Podesta Group updated its disclosures about lobbying work for India after contacts between its chairman, Tony Podesta, and his brother, Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, surfaced in the latter’s hacked emails. More recently, Michael Flynn, Trump’s short-lived national security adviser, retroactively disclosed lobbying that benefited the government of Turkey after initially filing under the LDA instead of FARA.


Politico

Now we just have to wait a bit to find out who Company A and Company B are and to what extent they are culpable.


By far the biggest revelation in the indictment.

And yet no one seem to want to talk about it.

Manafort was working as a Kremlin agent with two companies to influence american politicians, and no one seems interested.

Unbelievable.


I am confused.

What is the big revelation? Is it that Podesta Group lobbied for Ukraine like Manafort?
They have also lobbied for other countries and the GOP.
Most Lobbyists are prostitutes as far as I am aware.
If Tony Podesta took money illegally etc. I hope he goes to jail with Manafort.

Now..Weren't you going to show me how his brother "John Podesta" was still heavily involved in the firm despite having left it 25 years ago?

that is the hazy line you are trying to trace to Hillary Clinton isn't it?

I still don't follow the logic though.

So John Podesta's brother Tony Podesta has a lobbying firm that (maybe) lobbied for the former regime in Ukraine?

And this tells us what?




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