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Stop Defending Trumps treatment of Women.

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posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: Pitou

Just telling it like it is. How about YOU re-read my post. It seems you only went through and picked out your favourite keywords...as usual. You didn’t even get past the exclaimer that I left at the beginning. You call me a creep. So what...like I care how you feel about me. I have a few descriptive words for you as well, but I would be banned for mentioning them.
You have talked about men in a sexual manner (if you like men that is) if not, you have talked about someone out there in a sexual manner before, and don’t act like you haven’t. You, every other man, and every other woman is just as guilty as Trump.

I also get that Democrat losers like to gang up on those who point the mirror raging back into their faces, because they know they’re hypocrites. I’m ready for it, bring it on, I’m on vacation and have all the time in the world to respond to each of you. Let’s roll.
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posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: Thecakeisalie

Every man and woman alive has been a creep at some point in their lives. If anyone says any different...they’re a lying hypocrite.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

You misogynistic, patriarchal, archetypical, hateful, patriarchy-ist, patriarch-ogynistic patriarchy!



They are totally buzzwords. Same reason the leftists like to label everyone on the right Nazi's and racists. They use words that sound really "edgy" and harsh - the more syllables the better. And, if you can make up a new word to describe a middle class white male, you'll be public friend #1 to them.

With all this nonsense going on, it makes you wonder why more men aren't going #MGTOW. Honestly, unless you want children, don't even put yourself in their crosshairs. These allegations are frequently used by angry exes to exact revenge through the legal system. Either wearing a body camera 24/7/365 or MGTOW is really the only way to go nowadays.

Too many hysterical crazies out there.

Links: www.nytimes.com...
www.mgtow.com...
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posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:14 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
Either wearing a body camera 24/7/365 or MGTOW is really the only way to go nowadays.

Too many hysterical crazies out there.


pot, kettle
kettle, pot



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:17 PM
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a reply to: fiverx313


Nah, at least I don't falsely accuse people of sexual crimes over personal grudges and vendettas. ahem ... false rape accusations are even a problem in foreign nations

Young men: #MGTOW, because it just isn't worth it. "The only winning move is not to play."

I am, however, happily married with two children. Then again, I got married when sanity was still a valued trait. Today's second wave, patriarchal Meninists are wising up.
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posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Who gives a #? There have been 4 or 5 sexual predator presidents before him. Lower my taxes and fix my economy, I don't care what he says to women in his spare time. He's never raped anyone, and he hasn't said anything worse than any guy in this group has said in a guy group of friends.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin


We absolutely excuse President Trump, 100%. The allegations against him are entirely unproven, which make them worth as much as the "Bat boy" type stories in super market tabloids.

Yawn, next lie.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:23 PM
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Trump bragging about his ability as pageant owner to walk in on young girls naked in their dressing room is disgusting and abuse of power. There is no excuse for this.


Five different Miss Teen USA pageant contestants told BuzzFeed that Trump, who owned the pageant (as well as Miss USA and Miss Universe) from 1996 until 2015, entered the contestants’ dressing room as the girls were changing. Victoria Hughes, the former Miss New Mexico Teen USA, said the youngest contestant at her 1997 pageant was 15 and she was the oldest at 19.


“No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it,” Trump said. “You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”


On more than a few occassions he has made lewd suggestions to underage girls.


Trump sidling up to a pair of girls who were singing Christmas carols with a youth choir outside Manhattan's Plaza Hotel. "He asked two of the girls how old they were," the report reads. "After they replied they were 14, Trump said, "Wow! Just think -- in a couple of years I'll be dating you."

www.politico.com...


a girl who appeared to be about 10 years old. Upon seeing the girl, Trump joked: “I’ll be dating her in 10 years. Can you believe it?”


“I’ve said that if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her,” Trump said in 2006. He also told Howard Stern that it was okay for him to call Ivanka a “piece of ass.”

www.thecut.com...
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posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: LiberLegit


Exactly. Last I checked, everyone has freedom of speech. EVERYONE.

Fix our country, defend our borders, revise the tax code, repeal the ridiculous "all working people pay for everyone's health insurance" ACA and start making life better for the MIDDLE CLASS!

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posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:29 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie


It is irrelevant. Has absolutely nothing to do with fixing our country. He was elected President to Make America Great Again, not because he's the kindest/sweetest/gentlest man out there.

Again, everyone has freedom of speech. Until allegations of actual crimes are proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law, it is wholly irrelevant.

BTW: stating "in a few years I'll be dating you" is NOT "lewd" or inappropriate in any way. These girls were there for a BEAUTY pageant. Therefore, he was probably patronizing them or even trying to get a laugh/smile. Suck it up.
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posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:32 PM
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He clearly views girls of all ages in a sexual way... from infants to adults...

The weird way Donald Trump talked about then-infant daughter Tiffany's future breasts is uncovered interview from 1994

'Donald, what does Tiffany have of yours, and what does Tiffany have of Marla’s?' Robin Leach asked.
'Well, I think that she's got a lot of Marla,' Trump said. 'She's a really beautiful baby, and she's got Marla's legs.'
Then Trump motions to his chest and adds, 'We don't know whether she's got this part yet, but time will tell.'

Source: www.dailymail.co.uk...



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
He clearly views girls of all ages in a sexual way... from infants to adults...

The weird way Donald Trump talked about then-infant daughter Tiffany's future breasts is uncovered interview from 1994

'Donald, what does Tiffany have of yours, and what does Tiffany have of Marla’s?' Robin Leach asked.
'Well, I think that she's got a lot of Marla,' Trump said. 'She's a really beautiful baby, and she's got Marla's legs.'
Then Trump motions to his chest and adds, 'We don't know whether she's got this part yet, but time will tell.'

Source: www.dailymail.co.uk...


Yeah but he was just cataloguing female attributes.
Funny he didn't mention intelligence, compassion or anything of that nature. Thank god he didn't add acting skills though.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:43 PM
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a reply to: intrepid


Maybe he doesn't care about those attributes? Maybe he thought it was irrelevant? Maybe the person in question doesn't have any skills/attributes in those areas worth mentioning (intelligence, compassion, etc)? Who knows.

The point is that it has nothing to do with him delivering America from the clutches of mediocrity and some weird popculture form of socialism. In case you haven't been watching, the United States is beyond bankrupt - it is ~20 TRILLION Dollars in debt. Problem is, politicians and loud mouths won't be paying this debt off; It will be the American people, naturally.

By electing Trump, the American people rebuked liberalism and the massive financial/social failures that come along with it. You guys have a plan for everything, until it comes time to figuring out who is going to foot the bill. In the United States, that bill is always paid by the American taxpayer. Well, we're done footing those ridiculous and burdensome bills.

If you all want your healthcare and liberal programs, start leaning on your private foundations (like the criminal George Soros) for help. Private foundations should be providing this kind of stuff anyhow - not the People's government.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:47 PM
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What has kept this sicko from abusing his daughters during their childhood? Seems anything goes if he thinks he "can get away with it" like he does the Miss USA pageant dressing rooms.


Earlier in his campaign, Trump left many baffled when he complimented elder daughter Ivanka's 'very nice figure' and suggest that he would be dating her if he wasn't her father.
'She’s really something, and what a beauty, that one,' he told Rolling Stone last year. 'If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father…'


He's so sick he doesn't even hear what he's saying...


He echoed that same sentiment back in 2006, when he told the ladies of the View that Ivanka has 'a very nice figure' and 'if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her'.


So to sum up, every little girl he sees he imagines having sex with, and he admits if he could he'd have sex with his daughters too.
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posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie


Nah, there are no charges or allegations (or most importantly, evidence) indicating any of that is true. What you did was commit a serious logical fallacy, known as "affirming the consequent."

He didn't say anything that you've suggested. As usual, you conflate, twist and lie in order to bend the facts to support whatever specific conclusion you happen to be pushing that day.


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posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
He clearly views girls of all ages in a sexual way... from infants to adults...

The weird way Donald Trump talked about then-infant daughter Tiffany's future breasts is uncovered interview from 1994

'Donald, what does Tiffany have of yours, and what does Tiffany have of Marla’s?' Robin Leach asked.
'Well, I think that she's got a lot of Marla,' Trump said. 'She's a really beautiful baby, and she's got Marla's legs.'
Then Trump motions to his chest and adds, 'We don't know whether she's got this part yet, but time will tell.'

Source: www.dailymail.co.uk...


Its so disturbing.

what is even more disturbing I think is the number of members who are claiming this is just "pub-talk" and trying to normalise it as if all of us guys run around making disgusting comments like this.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

I'm not the one calling people racists or nazis, so don't put that on me.

And MGTOW lol, just look at what these guys have to say, it's beyond pathological. From what I've seen and heard of MGTOWish types is that they're maladjusted manchildren who, by their 20s, still aren't over a rejection in high school. And now there're people like you crying MGTOW because someone simply disagrees with you- what suffering!

You know, the victimhood of these people is so weird to see, especially in the USA. Women still struggle to be seen as fully human, to get some reproductive rights, to not be jailed for a miscarriage, to not be raped, harassed and assaulted by the Cosby's, Weinsteins, Trumps etc of the world. Conviction rates for rape and abuse are shockingly low and the response to women speaking out against Trump really illustrates why that is. It's already clear that a country has a major problem with sexism if they manage to elect a person like Trump for president in the first place.


OP is very much right: there's a staggering hypocrisy when it comes to people believing victims of rape and abuse only when it suits them. Trump was right too, basically no moral depravity will turn his fans away from him.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: spiritualzombie

He didn't say anything that you've suggested.


Oh, I see, you prefer audio and video. Here you go:




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posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

It's ironic really, they're more willing to say that pretty much all men are disgusting creeps than to stop supporting their hero, thereby proving their opponent's points. And well, flipping it around and taking their argument at face value: if all men are indeed such disgusting creeps, all men have a problem and I'd be very right to say that women should watch out for men


In any case, Trump should be grateful for so many devoted supporters willing to portray themselves as the worst sleazebags just to make him look better in comparison. Sadly, I think he's too narcissistic to acknowledge that.



posted on Oct, 30 2017 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

Quite the family man!

If you're beautiful, you face risk of harassment, rape etc by this man.

If you're not, you're like a dog, a nasty woman, a pig, etc.

I really wonder what life has been like for the women close to him. The way he talks about Ivanka-




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