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A theory on the Vegas Shooting

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posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 05:36 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: MotherMayEye


My experience with the human condition just says it takes more emotion, than that, to kill all those people without any regard as to who he might kill.


I take it you don't know a great deal about psychopathy?



Take it that I know of the *official* motives of many a mass murderer and serial killer...and I absolutely do not believe they are all false flags.

But then there are those without any compelling official motive to explain them. And other humans, also knowing the human condition, pick up on that and then many people find themselves unconvinced by what's officially offered.

I mean, we are the ones most affected by random mass shootings/terrorists/serial killers on the loose...I do pay attention to motive.

I'm qualified to be convinced or not convinced.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 05:50 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

OK.

The problem I find with my little theory, is that it would be very unusual for a person to be involved with psychopathy to that degree, and nobody in his life would have suspected it, which they don't appear to have. Mostly people who are around psychopaths, figure out at some point that something is seriously wrong with them. Of course, they themselves usually realize something is wrong with them at a fairly early age and adjust their outward attitude to reflect the "norm".

There were some creepy things in his neighborhood, that tend to indicate he might have been exhibiting symptoms, but I don't see much of anything else.

On the other hand, he did give his wife/girlfriend $100,000 to buy a house in the Philippines. So was he looking out for her welfare? Or was he just getting rid of her, or maybe he wanted her to buy a house he could escape to if he got away.
I don't know. If that was the case, he was only using her to suit himself. Which seems more likely.

But I'm not going to to argue the point. There is no point. It's my theory and it deserves consideration. Unless a viable motive comes forth, I'm leaning towards this is the case. Whatever you think is ok.


edit on 10/28/2017 by angeldoll because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 05:53 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

"Army of one"?
That's what I thought he was about to say.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 05:56 PM
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originally posted by: z00mster
a reply to: Konduit

"Army of one"?
That's what I thought he was about to say.


I just went back and rewatched. I think this a definite possibility.




posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

It's on my pile for consideration. I don't dismiss it entirely. Certainly evidence could come to light to corroborate your theory...and I actually expect it might. It's actually the best theory I've read that supports the official narrative. At least you've given a motive -- even if I don't find it compelling, personally.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 06:06 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

You base all this on the "evidence" as presented by all the trustworthy authorities.

What if "Paddock" is not being portrayed in the reality everybody seems to be assuming?

A good psy-ops always uses the most convincing tactics available along with as much confusion as possible.




posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 06:16 PM
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I would wonder why they happen to have the heavy hammer with them or was it planted later to cover the window situation.

I can't see the mass shooting in his case, I would think they would be working toward escape.

I suppose if they knew they were trapped then it could be pay back for the sting. But then they probably would not know about the stair door being unusable so the escape thought might still be in their heads which goes back to why the mass shooting.

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Then if could be they knew about the stairs but were told it was to prevent detection. But would they believe that versus seeing a trap?
edit on 10/28/2017 by roadgravel because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 06:26 PM
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The pass thru door(s) being locked on the 134 side (would keep 135 from entering) makes more sense in this one then Paddock using both rooms in the shooting (would think locked from the 135 side).



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 06:29 PM
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Could the reason the security guard acted so odd is that he was told to be quiet by the men who were running the sting or whatever it was.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 06:58 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
My theory is it was a game to him. A gamble, maybe even with a bet on it.


I may not agree with you (I don't think Paddock did anything except die) but I have to give you an A for original thinking. That is a unique angle and sometimes truth is stranger than fiction!




posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 07:43 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

Ar....sehole, Steve was an arsehole. I think that is the colloquial term he meant. The acting in that video makes it hard to determine what he was actually going to say. Hmmmmm.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 08:04 PM
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Mother; Xue, and ATA,

Yeah, it's pretty much "out there". But it's something to ponder, I guess. So is the arms dealing theory another one to look at.




posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: z00mster
a reply to: Konduit

"Army of one"?
That's what I thought he was about to say.


Me too.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 08:20 PM
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I have to scratch my head with the bump/ slide fire stocks.
Why would an arms dealer be dealing cheap plastic bump/ slide fire stocks?
Would you need a dealer for to get cheap guns with plastic add ons?

in regards to OP's theory, anything is possible.


edit on 28-10-2017 by Im2keul because: on topic



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

I stopped reading when they said, he had a pass key for the service elevator. I work in a hotel you don't need one. Beside that NO ONE would question his luggage.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 09:54 PM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals

originally posted by: angeldoll
My theory is it was a game to him. A gamble, maybe even with a bet on it.


I may not agree with you (I don't think Paddock did anything except die) but I have to give you an A for original thinking. That is a unique angle and sometimes truth is stranger than fiction!



I never thought about the fact someone could have taken out Paddock ( while shopping for guns), then broke the windows and started firing, and somehow managed to escape.

This whole Vegas shooting is rather shrouded in mystery, and it seems from some sources that eye witnesses are also mysteriously dying ??

Maybe someday we will all know the total truth about it.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 09:59 PM
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originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Asktheanimals

originally posted by: angeldoll
My theory is it was a game to him. A gamble, maybe even with a bet on it.


I may not agree with you (I don't think Paddock did anything except die) but I have to give you an A for original thinking. That is a unique angle and sometimes truth is stranger than fiction!



I never thought about the fact someone could have taken out Paddock ( while shopping for guns), then broke the windows and started firing, and somehow managed to escape.

This whole Vegas shooting is rather shrouded in mystery, and it seems from some sources that eye witnesses are also mysteriously dying ??

Maybe someday we will all know the total truth about it.


People in security and/or maintenance (or dressed the part) could have facilitated an illegal arms-deal meeting in Mandalay Bay, made Paddock feel at ease, made him a patsy, and then have escaped without notice because they were *legitimately* at the room, during the shooting, checking out reports of barricaded doors.
edit on 10/28/2017 by MotherMayEye because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 10:19 PM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
Why drag any guns up 32 floors of a casino with high security? If you are selling or running guns you wouldn't go to Mandalay Bay, you meet someone more discrete and show the merchandise. You don't carry ammo with it in case they decide to use the guns on you (rule #1 in gun dealing).

How about this was a live shooter drill that was infiltrated and used to make some group (FBI, DHS BATF) look like idiots?
We seem to have a mix of elements some real, some not.
The telling part is the radio transmissions that talk about wounded at the first aid station, gate 7 and the corner of Giles and Reno. Those are all to the Northeast away from Mandalay Bay and towards Tropicana and Hooters. It's also where the 3 black trailers were parked with US Army on the side.
It's the area where triage was set up as well.
Nearly every video of the shooting from near the stage you can hear someone saying "that's not real gunshots" or "I'm not buying it". Videos of the cleanup show absolutely no signs of shooting at the concert grounds near the Mandalay. No holes in white tents, scrim, posters, windows, silver trailers - nothing but writing on the cement under the rolled up astro turf. There are 2 bullet marks on the aviation fuel tanks that can be seen.

Nobody saw any flashes coming from the 32nd floor nor are there any on video so let's forget about Paddock.
He was just the fall guy, if he was ever real to begin with.



"Anonymous ID:LAbNFEtv Mon 11 Sep 2017 06:28:12 No.141102703 ViewReport

it's called the "high incident project". they want to make the american public think that places with extremely high security aren't safe. they are trying to create more regulations. you will see laws proposed within the next few years to put up more metal detectors and other security devices.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 10:43 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
Mother; Xue, and ATA,

Yeah, it's pretty much "out there". But it's something to ponder, I guess. So is the arms dealing theory another one to look at.

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posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 10:52 PM
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THE SAN BERNARDINO SHOOTING.... consider that statistically speaking, the chances of a real shooting event taking place in the exact same room where a multi-agency ‘active shooter’ drill took place, has to be close to zero.
Another roll play in La before a shooting.?

It is not a conspiracy, really. It is an agenda that is put out in the open.




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