A theory on the Vegas Shooting

Carlton Meyer is a former marine officer who has a great blog on many things.

He wrote this theory of the Vegas shooting which I find very interesting.

Stephan Pollock was making money gun running and was under surveillance by the police or the Feds. He had 23 different automatic rifles in his room as samples for buyers. As a known high roller, he mixed with other big spenders at the Mandalay Bay and some are wealthy criminals. Perhaps Pollock was part of an undercover operation. He may have volunteered, or was forced to volunteer to avoid jail time for a minor crime. Law enforcement knew he had all those guns and ammo there, and may have provided them. They even provided him with a key to use the service elevator to avoid attention and installed security cameras in Pollock's room and a one outside his door.

On Oct 1st, Pollock had customers in his room inspecting guns. They were violent criminals from Mexico who Pollock promised a few dozen assault rifles and light machine guns. A couple cops were in the next room watching and listening. All is good until housekeeping reports that the stairwell door on Pollock's floor near his room was jammed. Pollock or the cops may have done this to limit access since no one takes the stairs to the 32nd floor. Security is called and an unarmed guard Jesus Campos investigates, who then calls down for a maintenance man to come repair it.

While waiting, Campos notices an odd security camera in the hallway. Hotel guests would ignore it as cameras are common, but Campos works there and has never seen that type. Senior hotel security know of the police sting, but would not inform all their low-level security guards. The camera is pointing toward Pollock's room, who Campos knows well as a high-roller and frequent guest. As a courtesy, he knocks on the door to ask Pollock if it was his camera.

There is knocking at the door with some guy shouting "Security". The criminals think its a trap, so they load the weapons, shoot through the door, and hit a fleeing Campos. Then they open the door and spray bullets down the hallway thinking cops are all around. They see none and are unsure what to do for five minutes, except to kill Pollock. Maybe cops are waiting in the stairwell and elevators to ambush them. If not, armed security and the SWAT team are coming, so they need a diversion. They break open two windows and look for targets. They open fire on the airport fuel farm and the crowd far away to create 911 chaos, then flee the hotel with some weapons, including the light machine gun whose unique firing sound was recorded by several witnesses. The hotel security chief does not call 9-11 because he knows about the police sting.

This is an embarrassing disaster for MGM and law enforcement, so they quickly agree to blame it all on "crazy" Pollock. They delete all the hotel security camera footage, take the hard drive out of Pollock's laptop in the evidence room, and order Campos to keep his mouth shut. Case closed

g2mil.com...

I sounds plausible to me, but I was wondering what the people that have investigated the case more than me think.

They can’t even get his name right.

Right off, his last name is Paddock, not "Pollock".

a reply to: Grambler
Almost everyone seems to forget that the window in the second room was broke out too. Who broke that window and why?

a reply to: Grambler

If I'm dealing arms out of a hotel room in a crowded area, why do I have thousand's of rounds of ammo in the room? I don't, I leave the ammo in the car for a trip to the desert for a demonstration of the weapons the buyer is interested in. even if I were selling ammo, a small representative lot would suffice.

So the cops would just sit next door, wait through 200 rounds in the hallway, then the 10min shooting without doing anything? They would not call the cops themselves?

And the shooters just disappear into thin air?

Highly doubt that.

a reply to: Grambler

Forgive me, I’ve been a bystander to this story but I heard paddock also rented a room a couple weeks earlier facing a different concert.

Is that true (maybe I didnt describe in accurate details)?

If so, it would seem to indicate that he was indeed planning this which would be inconsistent with this proposed theory.

Or is the thought that the possible planning of a previous conert attack weeks earlier just a planted deflection?

originally posted by: botay
a reply to: Grambler

If I'm dealing arms out of a hotel room in a crowded area, why do I have thousand's of rounds of ammo in the room? I don't, I leave the ammo in the car for a trip to the desert for a demonstration of the weapons the buyer is interested in. even if I were selling ammo, a small representative lot would suffice.

Unless the *buyers* specifically requested he bring the ammo for immediate purchasing, and representative guns (registered in Paddock's name), for use as 'floor models' for a large order to be delivered at a later date.

I don't know that you can throw the baby out with the bath water on this theory, necessarily...but there is a lot of bath water. 'Stephan Pollack' should be 'Stephen Paddock,' and that, alone, makes it difficult to find merit.

a reply to: Hazardous1408

My first thought. "Who the f is Pollock?"

Why drag any guns up 32 floors of a casino with high security? If you are selling or running guns you wouldn't go to Mandalay Bay, you meet someone more discrete and show the merchandise. You don't carry ammo with it in case they decide to use the guns on you (rule #1 in gun dealing).

How about this was a live shooter drill that was infiltrated and used to make some group (FBI, DHS BATF) look like idiots?
We seem to have a mix of elements some real, some not.
The telling part is the radio transmissions that talk about wounded at the first aid station, gate 7 and the corner of Giles and Reno. Those are all to the Northeast away from Mandalay Bay and towards Tropicana and Hooters. It's also where the 3 black trailers were parked with US Army on the side.
It's the area where triage was set up as well.
Nearly every video of the shooting from near the stage you can hear someone saying "that's not real gunshots" or "I'm not buying it". Videos of the cleanup show absolutely no signs of shooting at the concert grounds near the Mandalay. No holes in white tents, scrim, posters, windows, silver trailers - nothing but writing on the cement under the rolled up astro turf. There are 2 bullet marks on the aviation fuel tanks that can be seen.

Nobody saw any flashes coming from the 32nd floor nor are there any on video so let's forget about Paddock.
He was just the fall guy, if he was ever real to begin with.

The LEO sting theory does t work.

If LEO was there they would have stormed the room if it went sideways. Also no account of the adjoining room. If it was a sting , LEO is in that adjoining room. How does the window get knocked out in that room?

The only scenario that works with this theory is if It is an arms deal gone bad. Even then I find it hard to believe that the bad guys freak out when Security knocks at the door and decides to fire out two windows at a concert below. If they felt they “had been made” by LEO the fire fight would be directed in the hallways because that is where they would think LEO is. They would open up on the hallways in hopes of creating opening to get out to the stairwell. Still unlikely IMO.

But still a whole bunch of shannigans going on . Not sure we’ll ever know what really happened.

Very strange part of the interview with his brother.

0:09 "Steve was an ar-"

a reply to: Konduit

"Slipped" by design.

All part of the psy-ops.

a reply to: Konduit

Wow that is a telling video. To bad he didn't finish his sentence. Arms dealer, Army veteran Armenian. I don't know what word could be placed there to be honest.

a reply to: Konduit

Sounds like he was about to say "Steve was an arms dealer"....

a reply to: xuenchen

He was going to use a 'colloquialism!"

Rest assured, *Stephen* would never ask for help. Not that kind of guy. He was totes the lone gunman.

My theory is it was a game to him. A gamble, maybe even with a bet on it.

To see if he could do it, that is all. Betting against himself. How many people could he hit in what amount of time?
Even the numbers found in the room, and the "figuring out" he did to improve his chances of hitting the most.

He didn't take into consideration the lives of those he took, who they were, mothers, kids, fathers.
That was no concern of his. All he cared about was amusing and challenging himself, even though it was like shooting fish in a barrel.

Unless they find a motive, I'll believe this might very well be the case. For him another gamble in vegas, with his life has the stakes.

originally posted by: angeldoll
My theory is it was a game to him. A gamble, maybe even with a bet on it.

To see if he could do it, that is all. Betting against himself. How many people could he hit in what amount of time?
Even the numbers found in the room, and the "figuring out" he did to improve his chances of hitting the most.

He didn't take into consideration the lives of those he took, who they were, mothers, kids, fathers.
That was no concern of his. All he cared about was amusing and challenging himself, even though it was like shooting fish in a barrel.

Unless they find a motive, I'll believe this might very well be the case. For him another gamble in vegas, with his life has the stakes.

That just isn't compelling motive to me. And I don't mean that as an insult, I just am not moved at all by that theory though.

My experience with the human condition just says it takes more emotion, than that, to kill all those people without any regard as to who he might kill.

I admit it is a gut thing for me. But it's based on 46 years of life experience...so nothing to sneeze at. My gut says there is far more motive here. More motive than just one person would have. The investigation just confirms my gut. I think the motive remains to be seen.

As a false flag believer, I wonder how many other shootings/attacks (that I suspect to also be false flags) justify the belief that it takes no compelling motive for a lone gunman to kill 58 random people at a concert...or 20 tiny first graders...

*They* keep telling us there is no compelling motive needed...I don't believe it. A disgruntled postal worker or something else personal to explain the 'snapping.' I need that to be a believer.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

My experience with the human condition just says it takes more emotion, than that, to kill all those people without any regard as to who he might kill.

I take it you don't know a great deal about psychopathy?