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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
i wonder how many more?
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: -- KJV, Exodus 20:4
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; -- KJV, Exodus 20:5
Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God. -- KJV, Leviticus 26:1
originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: avgguy
For some of the more, shall we say, enthusiastic among this crowd...the books should be next.
Stating opinions is fine. We all do it every day. Pointing out that OP's position is authoritarian and controlling, for example, is my opinion. Further, the expression of these opinions on the part of several members here are not consistent with their previously stated opinions about local determination and autonomy.
After reviewing what we heard in the listening sessions and what we read in your thoughtful emails, the Vestry decided last night to spend a month in thought, prayer, and reflection before voting on the presence of the plaques in our historic church on October 24. The Vestry understands the gravity of this decision and its impact on our beloved church. We take this process very seriously.
The Vestry believes that the memorial plaques to George Washington and Robert E. Lee should be considered together. The plaques were erected at the same time. They visually balance each other, maintaining the symmetry of our sanctuary. The men they memorialize are giants in our nation’s history and were members of this parish. Robert E. Lee has taken on outsized symbolism in the national conversation about race and inclusion.
The Vestry has unanimously decided that the plaques create a distraction in our worship space and may create an obstacle to our identity as a welcoming church, and an impediment to our growth and to full community with our neighbors. Accordingly, the plaques will be relocated no later than the summer of 2018.
It is important to understand that the plaques will not be moved to a storage area. Rather, they will remain in the church until they can be relocated to a place of respectful prominence where they will be fully visible to parishioners and tourists alike. And ultimately, they will be incorporated into a more complete presentation of our long and many-faceted history.
The Vestry will create a committee of parishioners tasked with working with parish members to identify ways we can highlight not only the plaques, but many other materials and objects from our past. This will allow visitors and researchers to more fully understand the role Christ Church has played in our community and our nation since 1773.
The discussion about the appropriateness of the plaques in our worship space caused friction in our parish family. We understand that the discernment process has felt confusing and exclusive. We hope all parishioners will be more fully involved as we move forward.
originally posted by: seagull
So, again, try to tell me why I shouldn't be concerned?