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Breaking: First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation

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posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: Grambler





So Trump considering lifting sanctions is a big deal, which by the way even left wing snopes admits he didnt do

No, no one admits he willingly didn't lift sanctions. What they agree on is the fact that, given the very investigation we are discussing right now, he COULDN'T do because it would look bad. And if you think that Russia isn't pissed about that... Well...




posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

There is no trade between Russia and America. There is no sanction to speak of.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 12:13 PM
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You all know how critical the contact between President Donald Trump and Francisco Palmieri is, right?

That's right, Cisco Palmieri ... you know the Assistant Secretary for Political Affairs: Western Hemisphere.

In the State Department ... you know, that Federal level Department that manages all aspects of American foreign policy presence around the world? Critical understandings and relationships with all (wink) unofficial representatives (wink).

Cisco is a very important "Washington agent." Very highly placed. He reports to the Under Secretary for Political Affairs who reports to the Deputy Secretary who reports to the Secretary of State who reports to the Prime Minister ... I mean the President.

Very important "Washington agent" our Cisco; Trump couldn't run the government without him. He moves in the high circles of power.


State Department
edit on 29-10-2017 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

And so? Surly these sources were working against the regime who would never do anything to help Mrs Clinton a sworn and widely known enemy of Vladimir Putin. And since Steele was in effect a sub contractor not being paid (thrice removed) by the Clinton campaign there is no violation of any laws. Please try to see the difference.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 12:17 PM
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a reply to: face23785

Indeed...



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 12:17 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

From your source:


Mission: We are working with our partners in the Americas to generate broad-based growth through freer trade and sound economic policies; to invest in the well-being of people from all walks of life; and to make democracy serve every citizen more effectively and justly.


His tweets are written en espaniol as well, I'm not following. Please explain your train of thoughts.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 12:19 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Hillary is no enemy of Putin. They are buddy buddy.




posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

Cisco Palmieri is a highly placed "Washington agent."

Even though he is five-times-removed from the President ... don't you think Trump confides in him?

You know, the way Putin confides in all the "Kremlin agents"? No matter how distant they are in the hierarchy?



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 12:21 PM
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originally posted by: Kettu
a reply to: Jobeycool

"Stood up to the globalists".

Really?

You do realize Trump is the literal definition of a globalist, right?
Trump has businesses outside the country,not at all these secret globalist meetings ever.You do not understand what people refer to as deep state globalist trying to all they can for one world government.They are trying to get the U.N.to enforce global laws on all nations.Totaly destroying sovereignty of people’s heritage.They may and are trying eventually to achieve owning the entire planet at some point.Remember it is all about money and power.
I doubt they ever succeed because Russia and China will never do it.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Grambler

What do you think the Magnitskt act is? Come back after you've studied for the test. This is getting tiresome.


I under stand the Magnitsky Act just fine.

Again, as even the left leaning Snopes admits, Trump never lifted it or other sanctions agianst russia.

But since we are talking about it, who else lobbied to lift those sanctions? Oh yeah the Podestas and Fusion GPS.

But it wasnt shadt for Hillary connected people to do that, right?



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: Jobeycool

Chinese oligarchs are all about money. America and China are best buddies all because of the huge trillions in bilateral trade between them. These trade benefit the oligarchs in both countries at the expense of the poor who are basically slave wage earners, in the case of America many millions of illegals who work below minimum wage.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Grambler




“a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure.”


Not a senior foreign minister, which is what you made from that. Could be anything from janitor to clerk, who knows? Not precisely a Kremlin official or even a "current officer", you're reaching and Steele probably just pimped up his whacky source with the use of Newspeak slang right there.

It's a fricken business after all. Read more carefully?


And you accused me of reading comprehension issues.

So in your mind, a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure may be a janitor?

My God, the mental gymnastics you people will make to try to defend corruption from your side.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Grambler

And so? Surly these sources were working against the regime who would never do anything to help Mrs Clinton a sworn and widely known enemy of Vladimir Putin. And since Steele was in effect a sub contractor not being paid (thrice removed) by the Clinton campaign there is no violation of any laws. Please try to see the difference.


Well we know Putin was giving Bill clinton tons of money, and russians were giving the foundation tons of money.

But wait, they hate Hillary, so why would they do that?

Maybe because they would play both sides.

As far as you argument that paying a third party to collude with russia is ok, I disagree.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: PublicOpinion

Cisco Palmieri is a highly placed "Washington agent."

Even though he is five-times-removed from the President ... don't you think Trump confides in him?

You know, the way Putin confides in all the "Kremlin agents"? No matter how distant they are in the hierarchy?


Not following you.

Any comment on the three lies you have told on the past pages?



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

The janitor angle, to overstate your statement. Now I get it, thanks.

a reply to: Grambler


originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Grambler




“a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure.”


Not a senior foreign minister, which is what you made from that. Could be anything from janitor to clerk, who knows? Not precisely a Kremlin official or even a "current officer", you're reaching and Steele probably just pimped up his whacky source with the use of Newspeak slang right there.

It's a fricken business after all. Read more carefully?


And you accused me of reading comprehension issues.

So in your mind, a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure may be a janitor?


Yes. Could be anything, such is the nature of empty phrases like that.

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posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion


Grambler, PublicOpinion has a history of failure to address direct questions via obfuscation and distraction. It is the leftist's way. Can't hold it against them personally, their mass-hysteria was manufactured by the highest echelon of their political masters.

The individuals engaging in this Russia conspiracy-fueled diatribe are emotional and hysterical, so I wouldn't try reasoning with them. They've ignored their own President (Obama) and his administration/officials, as well as current intelligence officials (CIA Director) along with the common knowledge that no evidence of Trump/Russia collusion has been revealed.

I don't expect facts to start working on them any time soon.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 01:11 PM
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Wink, wink. Lots of innuendo and baseless accusations.

Got proof? Didn't think so.

EDIT: Righties, don't let these leftists distract us from our goal of #MAGA! We can't afford to get bogged down engaging in semantical arguments with those who only have political power on the coastlines.

We need to stay energized for tax reform, as well as the deregulation and massive shrinking of government. It is also very likely several SCOTUS justices will be retiring in the next few years, and we need to make sure he is in office (by voting him in again in 2020) to fill those seats. Can you all imagine what a highly stacked SCOTUS will do for conservative/MAGA causes? After taking control of the SCOTUS, Trump can restore law and order. The Constitution and its BOR will reign supreme again. With any luck (Americans are getting more intelligent by the day), a Democrat won't even be electable as dog catcher after our POTUS is done with them.
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posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

What? I've acquired a fan-base? Whoohooo!!!



I don't expect facts to start working on them any time soon.


Yeah... cuz... ya know, Russian Ministries don't hire janitors or clerks.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 01:18 PM
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So lets say they indict Manafort. It will be because of wire transfers made years ago not anything from during his time with Trump(all 3 months of it) but it will be enough to continue the news cycle about how he 'could have been colluding' with Russia during the election. Nothing else will happen. All smoke and mirrors.

Laughable is the comment that the Russians did not like HRC. Hahahaha. They WANTED her in office. I would think that would be why anything would be 'leaked' or 'released' about Trump. Not to get him elected but to prevent it. They have no idea who he is politically and they know him as a shrewd businessman so why would you want to put that in office.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 01:21 PM
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Exactly! Not one single allegation against Trump constitutes a crime - even if every last allegation is proven.

Fingers crossed that the indictment is Clinton/Podesta related, but it's probably Manafort for several year old crimes.
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