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Breaking: First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation

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posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Gryphon66
The false conflation here is obvious: there is a difference between working with someone of Russian nationality and state agents representing the will and goals of the Russian government itself.


Oh boy.


Source A—to use the careful nomenclature of his dossier—was “a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure.” Source B was “a former top level intelligence officer still active in the Kremlin.”


www.vanityfair.com...

These werent just people that happen to be russsian, they are top level russian officials.

So yes, I agree with you, the DNC working with these top level officials to get dirt on trump is a very serious matter.



The denial has reached fever-pitch with these DNC lapdogs. This level of self-delusion can be mentally destabilizing. When reality finally sets in, they could become dangerous.




posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 12:54 PM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Gryphon66
The false conflation here is obvious: there is a difference between working with someone of Russian nationality and state agents representing the will and goals of the Russian government itself.


Oh boy.


Source A—to use the careful nomenclature of his dossier—was “a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure.” Source B was “a former top level intelligence officer still active in the Kremlin.”


www.vanityfair.com...

These werent just people that happen to be russsian, they are top level russian officials.

So yes, I agree with you, the DNC working with these top level officials to get dirt on trump is a very serious matter.



The denial has reached fever-pitch with these DNC lapdogs. This level of self-delusion can be mentally destabilizing. When reality finally sets in, they could become dangerous.


I can't wait to see it.
*starts cooking popcorn
edit on 28-10-2017 by RazorV66 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Gryphon66
The false conflation here is obvious: there is a difference between working with someone of Russian nationality and state agents representing the will and goals of the Russian government itself.


Oh boy.


Source A—to use the careful nomenclature of his dossier—was “a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure.” Source B was “a former top level intelligence officer still active in the Kremlin.”


www.vanityfair.com...

These werent just people that happen to be russsian, they are top level russian officials.

So yes, I agree with you, the DNC working with these top level officials to get dirt on trump is a very serious matter.



The denial has reached fever-pitch with these DNC lapdogs. This level of self-delusion can be mentally destabilizing. When reality finally sets in, they could become dangerous.


Right. Some of them have already labeled anyone who wants to look into this as traitors to be fought.

What happens if their narrative collapses any further?

I shudder to think.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 12:56 PM
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Its purely circumstantial, but watching who squirms the most during an investigation can be very telling. This is turning in to a full blown dance party...



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

They do since trump took office.
How's that voter fraud commission doing at finding those three plus million fraudulent votes from illegals? Aside from collecting voter information that is?



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Gryphon66
The false conflation here is obvious: there is a difference between working with someone of Russian nationality and state agents representing the will and goals of the Russian government itself.


Oh boy.


Source A—to use the careful nomenclature of his dossier—was “a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure.” Source B was “a former top level intelligence officer still active in the Kremlin.”


www.vanityfair.com...

These werent just people that happen to be russsian, they are top level russian officials.

So yes, I agree with you, the DNC working with these top level officials to get dirt on trump is a very serious matter.



The denial has reached fever-pitch with these DNC lapdogs. This level of self-delusion can be mentally destabilizing. When reality finally sets in, they could become dangerous.


I can't wait to see it.
*starts cooking popcorn


Might want to buy yourself a gun while you're at it. We already know these people are violent.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 01:00 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: yuppa

They do since trump took office.
How's that voter fraud commission doing at finding those three plus million fraudulent votes from illegals? Aside from collecting voter information that is?


an excellent question... Maybe you can provide us with the reasons Democrats at the Federal and State levels have refused to cooperate on the investigation?

What are the Democrats scared of?



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 01:02 PM
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Someone Twitter feed is suspiciously silent today.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 01:02 PM
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Just something I find interesting. There are many popular conservative posters on this site that routinely make the statements that if trump is found guilty and prosecuted by law, they will gladly stand behind that indictment. Because they value the idea that everyone should be held accountable under the law regardless of their wealth or social standing.

I don't think I have ever seen that type of statement from the other side. I wonder, if their liberal idols were found guilty and prosecuted, would they even believe these idols were corrupt? Or would they think it was all a setup? I think there are actual people out there that still think this is all a setup and the clintons are clean.

It is kind of disturbing.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 01:05 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
The false conflation here is obvious: there is a difference between working with someone of Russian nationality and state agents representing the will and goals of the Russian government itself.


If I made a statement like this, and was then shown that actually the Kremlin officials used in the steele dossier that was paid by Hillarys team were actually high level Kremlin state officials representing the Rusian will and government itself, I would not only admit my mistake, but voice my concern at this serious russian collusion.

I guess we shall see how important some people think russian collusion really is....



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: ClovenSky



Whats good for the goose is good for the gander... Unless your a Democrat with a holier than thou superiority complex who thinks the laws only apply to anyone who doesnt have a (D) after their name.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
Who the heck knows where this is going.

Half the posters on this thread, it would seem. Personally, I'd prefer to wait until the arrests start before I go shooting off my mouth with 'certainties', but hey...that's just me.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 01:07 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
Someone Twitter feed is suspiciously silent today.


So just to clarify, last night when Trump tweeted about Hillary and her russian collusion, this was characterized by some on the left as a break down by him.

Today he does not tweet, and this somehow proves he is frightened or something?

Wow.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 01:07 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
Someone Twitter feed is suspiciously silent today.


Nice weather for Golf.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: ClovenSky
Just something I find interesting. There are many popular conservative posters on this site that routinely make the statements that if trump is found guilty and prosecuted by law, they will gladly stand behind that indictment. Because they value the idea that everyone should be held accountable under the law regardless of their wealth or social standing.

I don't think I have ever seen that type of statement from the other side. I wonder, if their liberal idols were found guilty and prosecuted, would they even believe these idols were corrupt? Or would they think it was all a setup? I think there are actual people out there that still think this is all a setup and the clintons are clean.

It is kind of disturbing.


In fairness, I've seen one or two, but it is indeed rare.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

I don't think so.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: ClovenSky
Just something I find interesting. There are many popular conservative posters on this site that routinely make the statements that if trump is found guilty and prosecuted by law, they will gladly stand behind that indictment. Because they value the idea that everyone should be held accountable under the law regardless of their wealth or social standing.

I don't think I have ever seen that type of statement from the other side. I wonder, if their liberal idols were found guilty and prosecuted, would they even believe these idols were corrupt? Or would they think it was all a setup? I think there are actual people out there that still think this is all a setup and the clintons are clean.

It is kind of disturbing.


I have seen that froom some liberals. As I mentioned earlier, I saw antedilluvian say months ago that he had not problem with the podesta group being investigated, and whoever was found guilty should be charged.

Others have said similar things. But certainly there are those that seek to not even want an investigation into any liberal wrong doing, much as there were extreme right wing people that felt the same about trump



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: Grambler
Who the heck knows where this is going.

Half the posters on this thread, it would seem. Personally, I'd prefer to wait until the arrests start before I go shooting off my mouth with 'certainties', but hey...that's just me.


If arrests do come on Monday (or today or Sunday) and shows the reporting is correct then there is yet another investigation that needs to be conducted. Leaking grand jury actions is in fact a federal crime.

If that leak comes from the left then once again we have evidence that they feel the laws only apply to anyone who is not a Democrat.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: Throes

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Throes

He is a she and she is fully aware of that story. Hi🙋


Should've lead with ze, right? Sources on Twitter are stating Manaforts Lawyer is saying they hasn't been notified about this.

Guess when they come to arrest him that will be his notification.
I'd pack a bag if I were him.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: Grambler
Who the heck knows where this is going.

Half the posters on this thread, it would seem. Personally, I'd prefer to wait until the arrests start before I go shooting off my mouth with 'certainties', but hey...that's just me.


If arrests do come on Monday (or today or Sunday) and shows the reporting is correct then there is yet another investigation that needs to be conducted. Leaking grand jury actions is in fact a federal crime.

If that leak comes from the left then once again we have evidence that they feel the laws only apply to anyone who is not a Democrat.


Indeed, and honestly I don't think it would be that hard to find it. It's not like all the low-level people involved with the investigation would know. It would be compartmentalized so only select people know.




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