When Gods ruled

Just finished watching the first series of American God's. I loved the old Irish connection. A religious nation with a very close link direct to "God".but that's a story for another day. But it got me thinking if there was ever a time in History when God's ruled fairly and well, and then I suddenly
remembered the Weld-Blundell Prism. A period in our history where I think we got it right... Are the old "Gods" dead or do they still have a place in our "modern" society. Would they be welcomed back if they returned or decided to reveal themselves?Do they have a place in our rapidly evolving worlds

a reply to: DpatC Now we could imagine that they (gods) started out doing a good job of it .

Psalm 82 A psalm of Asaph. 1 God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the “gods”: 2 “How long will you[a] defend the unjust and show partiality to the wicked? 3 Defend the weak and the fatherless; uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. 4 Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked. 5 “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. 6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ 7 But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.” 8 Rise up, O God, judge the earth, for all the nations are your inheritance.

a reply to: DpatC

I would remark they haven't left.
However we ignore them pretty hard.

And I'm not sure defining them as "God's" would be correct either. They're sure a "something" tho. Once you get into some of the stories they were fallible and had their own issues as well that we were supposed to learn from.

originally posted by: Caver78
a reply to: DpatC

And I'm not sure defining them as "God's" would be correct either. They're sure a "something" tho. Once you get into some of the stories they were fallible and had their own issues as well that we were supposed to learn from.

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Would you care to expand on the above. Im intrigued to learn as to how you would explain the "something"!

a reply to: DpatC

Highly advanced interdimensional or extraterrestrial beings, would be my guess.

It's so hard to deny the existence of the stories of advanced technology in our ancient past. The interpretations that can be taken from those stories in regards to that are just as valid as the current interpretations being taught by religions.

First verse of the Quran:

In the name of Allah, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful.
[All] praise is [due] to Allah, Lord of the worlds -

Lord of the Worlds!!!! Plural.

Old Testament, Isaiah 13

I give command, and I bring them: giants are coming to fulfil my wrath, rejoicing at the same time and insulting.

4A voice of many nations on the mountains, even like to that of many nations; a voice of kings and nations gathered together: the Lord of hosts has given command to a war-like nation,

5.to come from a land afar off, from the utmost foundation of heaven; the Lord and his warriors are coming to destroy all the world.

Analyse that, to come from a land afar OFF (Off planet?), from the utmost foundations of heaven (Space/Orion), and he controls an army of Giants no less. Are these the same giants of Genesis?

Analyse the story of Moses on the mountain.....perfect example of 'God' not wanting people to see his 'Glory' i.e spaceship.....and if they do he will strike them dead. And Moses himself suffering radiation burning from God showing him his 'Glory'

Switch to Hindu......flying machines....Gods with what sounds like very powerful technology

Babylonian, Zoroastrian, even Japan has ancient stories.

a reply to: DpatC

For such a simple straightforward question it's surprisingly difficult to answer.
So I'm going to go two routes with it.

The easiest is to ask if you've ever seen the TV show "Vikings"? in particular any part where Ragnar Lothbrok deals with the God Thor? Yeah it's TV, yeah it's fiction however him talking to the Old Gods was handled well. Quite obviously there was an interaction, a back and forth, plus it was "a something". External to him.

Secondly I could go for a "stretch" and try to articulate what I understand yet verbalize poorly.

When you did your original post I backed away because most commonly discussed are the Gods from eastern religions, sometimes from south america and those just don't resonate with me. So I've learnt nothing about them and more importantly don't care to.

Onwards.
Many writers have covered this, Joseph Campbell being one. But for them it seems more theoretical than everyday. Everyday is more the way I see it. You say God's, I would say Manitou

Manitou, among Algonquian-speaking peoples of North America, the spiritual power inherent in the world generally. Manitous are also believed to be present in natural phenomena (animals, plants, geographic features, weather); they are personified as spirit-beings that interact with humans and each other and are led by the Great Manitou (Kitchi-Manitou). The word was frequently used by 19th-century and early 20th-century anthropologists in their theories of animism, a religious system characteristic of many indigenous peoples.

www.britannica.com...

In most pantheon's of Gods whether they be Norse, or Nenets or any other one, the common theme is interaction. The Old Gods interacted with humans. It was a give and take, a personal relationship. NOT a God is over there, up there ect...but more a everyday thing. They were approachable. This has played out many times over thru oral histories whose stories also can be interpreted loosely as a "protocol for engagement" with them.

In that train of thought (sorry stuff was boring till now) you have to ask yourself would a nebulous idea of a "God" be actually able to have hands on interactions with us? Or is it a "something"?

I'm of the opinion it's a "something" because if you actually respond in bizarre circumstances as told in the old stories the responses are reasonably predictable (YMMV). In all cultures the stories hold a sort of roadmap for their geographical locations and pantheon's.

How is this different than knowing how a bear behaves in the wild?
Or how a deer behaves?

If the behaviors are mapped it's a "something". Not a nebulous God up in the aether just sitting around judging us, or randomly forgiving us or tsk-tsking. It's a "something" that resides in that specific area. Hence the stories.
So in Norway I would respect that and dig in and learn to interact, here the same, and again in Ireland.

a reply to: DpatC


Consider that it is at least theoretically possible (no offence intended to all concerned), that Jesus Christ was the result of punctuated equilibrium in relation to evolutionary theory.

That of course and in consideration being applicable to all the God(s),

Otherwise yes, consciousness in potential could be why we are all here.

www.msn.com...

Yes were going to need to keep looking.

Its a shame the two of us do not have the opportunity to meet and discuss this in a one to one basis and of course address our differences in a peaceful way.

a reply to: DpatC

Wouldn't it depend on the definition of what a God is which used to get debated alot.

Polthyeism had multiple Gods or Personifications of the elements like they were kingdoms or realms of their own respect, where as monotheism( Hinduism an exception to the one rule, or maybe it not ) went a Power Cosmic Personification that would work along the lines of casuality, fore telling, futuristic stuff that never occurred before or it actually did, and a whole bunch of doom porn.

Could we rapidly evolve to their world, reality, or Marklar?

originally posted by: DpatC
A period in our history where I think we got it right... Are the old "Gods" dead or do they still have a place in our "modern" society.

They never got it right. They descended onto Mount Hermon and started to screw up the DNA of all of God's creations.

D.U.M.P's and D.U.M.B's are filled with half human half creatures today where they try to manufacture unique 'super soldiers' for their NWO.

The films X-Men show it all in a 'Fictional' way.

They are here but are still pulling the strings behind the curtains. Many are in Antarctica where Hitler went after WW2.

Some of the 200 fallen watchers have turned back to Yahushua, so the final battle should be interesting.