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Majority Of White Americans Say They Face Discrimination

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posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ

The problem is we associate acts of evil or wrong doing with skin color. It should be considered a mental illness. We need to see right and wrong for what they are. It doesnt matter what vessel you're in, it's the actions that do.
That's like having a vendetta against all Ford trucks that are red just because you got hit and ran by someone driving in one.




posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: Merlynn
a reply to: openminded2011

Greven is the one with the glasses. How is a black guy who killed white cops equating to a white guy who killed white people. Plus all the info we are hearing about the Las Vegas shooter is making it sound like he is set up for being a patsy.

A couple weeks before the Las Vegas shooting a black guy walked into a church (white people) and shot 8 or 9 people, did you hear about it? Is it odd that they are still talking about Dylan Roof? Can you remember any of the black shooter's names? Did you know that 70% of mass shooting are done by blacks? Yet everyone thinks it's whites?

narrative-collapse.com...




Almost all mass shootings are committed by men - the low figure is that 94% of known perpetrators are men.

Other than that, mass shootings fall close to demographics - black men account for under 20% of mass shootings, and white men account for more than half of mass shootings. Hispanics are actually underrepresented and Asian shooters seem to be disproportionately higher.

You are foolishly believing a stupid website on the internet that clearly has an agenda, what with the "Crime Stats" page being full of INTERRACIAL KILLINGS and POLICE KILLINGS... along with Pepe the Frog scattered everywhere. In case that's not enough, here's a lovely quote from that website about an arsonist (interestingly, they use a non-English spelling):

The victims included a black male, a white female, and five Mulato children.


Take off the blinders.

As typical, they use the definition of 4 or more victims to be 'mass killing.' Another website uses that same definition:
At the minimum threshold range, a vast number of perpetrators are unknown. Of 367 mass shootings in 2017 as of today, the perpetrator is listed as known in only 70 of these. Some of these unknowns appear in your source, but most do not.

The source you cite claims 34 mass killings have happened as of August 1st, where this lists 263 shootings by that point - and it only factors in gun violence, not other forms of violence. The source refines the list to 4 or more victims and 3 or more deaths (not just shootings). Massshootingtracker.org lists more than 50 mass shootings where 3 or more victims died and 4 or more people were victims by August 1st.

Past the bare-minimum threshold of 4 victims, only 6 on the list from your source killed 5 or more, and 2 of those perpetrators were black (one was an arsonist). Of the same list, only 14 injured or killed more than 4. Of those, 6 were identified as black.

Do you think 4 victims when you think of mass killings?
What about killings inside of private homes, which most of the ones on your source's list are - are those mass killings?
What about when those mass killings are committed against relatives, as most of the ones on that list are?



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: Illiberation

Then we end up with asylums full of blacks, you know.
The same as it happened with the prisons. Lol.
Sorry, I'm trying to sound racist to trigger a little bit kinda youtube-style debate. I admit being a bit bored tonight and trolling here and there whenever I find it amusing.

However # is serious. Mostly because of non-white racism triggering white racism.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ
Anyone posted yet?

Video shows bystanders (a couple of non-whites, n-words, latinos whatever) taking photos of a blonde woman lying unconscious on a sidewalk after she was beaten by someone. # like this creates true racism IMO. I'm not racist until I don't see something like this

"N-words" - seriously? You've said this repeatedly too.
edit on 13Sun, 29 Oct 2017 13:30:47 -0500America/ChicagovAmerica/Chicago10 by Greven because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 01:31 PM
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a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ

A racist loves to be challenged with hatred because it reinforces their belief.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 01:51 PM
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a reply to: Illiberation

Everyone needs to accept their racism or one day it will explode in a violent way. It's the same principle as Freud's suppression of sexuality.
The left is trying to ignite race wars but they want you to do it. TPTB want to get rid of muslims but they want to use them first and then you to kill them. Liberal mind is sneaky



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ

Then why hate the victims when you know TPTB see anyone who isnt them as nothing more than a peon.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

You obviously did not watch the video.

This was entry level fireman. Took years of waiting for Carolla, black woman took a week.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: Greven

Yea, I said it in a proper way, didn't I? How'd you call this scum?



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 03:02 PM
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a reply to: Greven

And you don't think where you get your info has an agenda?

They don't include incidents like the the shooting near Nashville, TN. He shot 8 or 9 people and 1 person died, that is a mass shooting, yet they do not count it. Those are the numbers I go by, I can't help if they are a lousy shot, if they shoot multiple people that is a mass shooting. Just think how many more they are not counting. I get my info from many resources. I believe the one I left on here was to highlight the huge difference in interracial crime and each one had proof.

My agenda--the truth.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 03:04 PM
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originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: Open_Minded Skeptic

See but I think you are not thinking through your claims here.

You claim institutional discrimination hurts minorities and women.

Then you cite the legal system.

Men are arrested more, convicted more, suffer more violence from police, have longer sentences And have far worse conditions in jail than women.

In fact, the difference in treatment in these areas between men and women is far greater than between black and white.

So I guess you are admitting, men suffer from rampant institutional discrimination.

Men are more violent than women and commit much more crime than women.

This is not a surprising fact to anyone who has paid any attention to anything in human history.


Wow, you sound just like the people who say blacks are more violent and commit more crime.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 03:08 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ

I doubt it because it is retarded to pretend like that makes some point about everyone who is not white. ....


Pointing single incidents as proof of the disposition of everyone else in that group is whatever, isn’t just propaganda it’s most likely racist..

It’s not like 100% racist, but probably like 70% chance it’s racist..


A single incident which is one of hundreds, thousands, which is a pattern, not a mere incident.

www.youtube.com...




posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 03:11 PM
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originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: Greven

I think his point was that just because your demographic suffers more under x, y or z statistic doesn't necessarily mean there's systemic discrimination going on. Clearly there is some gender discrimination with police, I mean it's common knowledge women get out of tickets easier, they even brag about it. But for violent crime, men just commit more, so they get arrested more. It's not discrimination. As you said it's just kind of a fact of nature.

That being said, what other statistics have underlying explanations besides discrimination?

Statistically, one can say that men are more violent than women and commit more violent crime than women, simply because there are vastly fewer women who do this sort of thing. It's harder to go elsewhere, though - part of it is because people misunderstand the FBI crime statistics and claim that the numbers say something they do not.

Homicide is the most-cleared form of crime, but only about 2/3rds of homicides are ever cleared. Note that 'cleared' doesn't mean convicted, but that someone was charged with the crime or the person they would charge with the crime has since died. This leaves just over 1/3rd of all homicides not cleared - no suspect at all. For example, you can't say that, statistically-speaking, black men commit more murder than white men because of that 34% missing figure.

You can say that black men were charged (dead or alive) with murder more than white men were. It just leaves out a lot of the story. Additionally, charges don't always stick; about 70% of murder charges result in a conviction (though black men are convicted at higher rates than white men, let's suppose it's equal for the math bit below). There's also a history of black men being charged with crimes they didn't commit at higher rates than whites, but we can ignore that for our purposes.

Suppose 1000 homicides occurred. 340 are not cleared. Of the 660 that are cleared, black men are charged 343 times, and white men are charged 317 times. 240 black men are convicted of murder, and 222 white men are convicted of murder.

Now we have black men convicted of 240 murders, and white men convicted of 222 murders. We can't say black men commit more murders because we only have 462 of the 1000 total homicides. There are 538 murders not accounted for here, and there is no validity in splitting the unsolved murders down the line due to the huge unknown factor in uncleared homicides.

Those 538 murders could be from black men, or could be from white men, but are more likely to be from some proportion of each. We don't know, and we cannot say.


This ginores so much.

For example, we know that a hug proportion (almost half) of all murder victims are black youths. We no for a fact that the majority of time, murders occur within the same race.

So are we really to believe when there is an unsolved murder in an inner city black neighborhood that some white guy snuck in and did it?

But ok, by that same train of thought, all of those unsolved murders could have been committed by women, so how dare you say men commit many more violent crimes.

You are also leaving out proportions by just looking at raw numbers.

If raw numbers are all that matter, then we clearly see that every year more white people are killed by cops than blacks; therefore we can infer cops are racist towards whites.

Of course that is nonsense, because Whites are such a higher percentage of people.

Much in the same way we can see that stats show about half of all homicide arrests and victims are black, despite the fact they make up around 13% of the population.

The point is; if you are allowed to say the legal system is harsher on men because they are more violent, then people should be aallowed to make that argument regarding race.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ

Except for the only place that actually exists is in conservative fairy tales....and internet message boards. Which may or may not even be their actual opinion. It is the Internet after all....

It’s like ghosts or unicorns.. people say they are real but I’ve never met one.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Yea, it's alive. What doesn't work is the group thinking of the left.
My favorite lol-place now is the uncensored, crazy, full of the left spam Infowars Live chat. A true ROFL for external use only. The racism is so funny when you don't make it a tabu

live in 4 minutes
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posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 04:48 PM
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originally posted by: Merlynn
a reply to: Greven

And you don't think where you get your info has an agenda?

They don't include incidents like the the shooting near Nashville, TN. He shot 8 or 9 people and 1 person died, that is a mass shooting, yet they do not count it. Those are the numbers I go by, I can't help if they are a lousy shot, if they shoot multiple people that is a mass shooting. Just think how many more they are not counting. I get my info from many resources. I believe the one I left on here was to highlight the huge difference in interracial crime and each one had proof.

My agenda--the truth.

Who doesn't count it? From the Massshootingtracker.org list:

329 09/24/2017 Antioch, TN 1 8 Emanuel Kidega Samson


You don't care about the truth as proven by your lie here.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: Open_Minded Skeptic

See but I think you are not thinking through your claims here.

You claim institutional discrimination hurts minorities and women.

Then you cite the legal system.

Men are arrested more, convicted more, suffer more violence from police, have longer sentences And have far worse conditions in jail than women.

In fact, the difference in treatment in these areas between men and women is far greater than between black and white.

So I guess you are admitting, men suffer from rampant institutional discrimination.

Men are more violent than women and commit much more crime than women.

This is not a surprising fact to anyone who has paid any attention to anything in human history.


Wow, you sound just like the people who say blacks are more violent and commit more crime.

Truth hurts, huh?

The fact is, 1/3rd of murders (and even worse rates for other forms of crime) are not cleared. We don't know who did them. You can't say 'blacks are more violent and commit more crime' because the huge unknowns in the statistics do not support that.

What is clear from statistics, even if every single uncleared murder were assigned to a woman, men would still have committed more murders. Therefore, we can unequivocally say that men are more violent than women.

This is not rocket science. Your analogy is idiotic.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: Greven

Mother Jones and many others do not count it. Not a lie, the truth. Most go by Mother Jones.

The one you are sighting has 4 or more people need to be shot, better than most, all I go by is multiple--2 is multiple.

A lot of unknowns, most of the unknowns (especially in the city) will be black shooters. Would make even my stat go up.
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posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 05:04 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

The only time I face discrimination is from minorities and I am a minority.



posted on Oct, 29 2017 @ 05:11 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ

Except for the only place that actually exists is in conservative fairy tales....and internet message boards. Which may or may not even be their actual opinion. It is the Internet after all....

It’s like ghosts or unicorns.. people say they are real but I’ve never met one.





Huh, go figure.

You say you're real, but I've never met you, either.



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