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Confirmed voter fraud.

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posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 10:17 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Justoneman


Several hundred proven vote fraud.



Noncitizen immigrants may have cast 544 ballots illegally out of more than 93 million ballots in elections spanning 18 years in Pennsylvania, state election officials said Wednesday.


Why'd you not include the bolded portion in your statement?

Lol less than 600 votes out of over 93,000,000 in 18 years. But yea, let's spin that as "safe to say he probably won the popular vote." (I did the math just for poops and giggles: that's 0.00000585% lol)

Don't get me wrong, I think voter fraud is an issue that needs to be addressed. Just not an issue that needs to be addressed with selective quotation and spin.


In that one county. How many in all of the other counties?? Multiply that out to all blue states, and liberal areas in red ones, and the numbers really start to pile up. California alone would have millions.




posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 11:18 PM
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originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

In that one county. How many in all of the other counties?? Multiply that out to all blue states, and liberal areas in red ones, and the numbers really start to pile up. California alone would have millions.
Pennsylvania is a state, not a county. That is one state over an 18 year period and if you bothered to read the posted article;

It’s not clear how many of the 544 questioned ballots may have been cast in that race.
Source
edit on 10/26/2017 by Devino because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 11:40 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Justoneman

It looks like President Trump is right again. Good post. Thankyou!


"HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — Noncitizen immigrants may have cast 544 ballots illegally out of more than 93 million ballots in elections spanning 18 years in Pennsylvania, state election officials said Wednesday."

How does that equate to mass voter fraud? That's probably not even enough votes to sway the results of a local mayoral race.



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 12:51 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6well there were reports of at least 10 million illegal votes in la county if all them votes were for hilliary then she would have lost by millions of votes.
votes were supposedly done by illegal immigrants





posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 05:35 AM
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originally posted by: proteus33
a reply to: Shamrock6well there were reports of at least 10 million illegal votes in la county if all them votes were for hilliary then she would have lost by millions of votes.
votes were supposedly done by illegal immigrants


Well, that is Donald Trumps claim isn't it? Without any evidence what so ever.

Perhaps his ego was hurt by the fact that he lost the popular vote by around 3 million. So maybe those 3 million votes were all cast by illegal immigrants, or maybe 10 million, who knows.

I think it likely that some illegal immigrants may have voted illegally knowingly or not, like the OP claims, yet for the amount Donald is claiming we are most certainly going to need evidence to back it up.

All this time, money and energy wasted on potential voter fraud that has been shown time and time again to be nearly non-existent yet the real problem, election fraud... meh?



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 05:44 AM
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a reply to: proteus33

Which would be stunning, since only about three and a half million votes total were cast in LA county.

One can only wonder where the ten million illegal votes wandered off to.



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: Jefferton
So if there was mass voter fraud..

How did he win?

it was strategic and mass enough. And unless otherwise proven I dpubt it was really planned or organized.



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 02:04 PM
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OH FFS!!

This current line of whining was started by Trump before election night. He started rambling about "massive voter fraud" to cover his ass in case he lost. And when he seen he didn't receive the popular vote, his ego got bruised and he decided to have it "investigated".

And because their pumpkin headed messiah says it's true, they have to parrot his views. If someone said his nose was too long, he'd have a f'n commission out measuring everyone noses and claiming half had plastic surgery.

I'm sick and f'n tired of seeing how quickly people are to defend him and even quicker to attack others that have different political views. If people like that are representative of his voter base, then we're seriously screwed. So quick to be violent and aggressive. If someone doesn't agree with you, they're obviously "libtards", "snowflakes", "cry babies" etc etc. If you could have a proper debate, your head would explode. You care more about belittling somebody rather than actually winning at anything. As long as you get to feel superior, it doesn't matter if you're wrong or right.

That's exactly the attitude of Mr. Trump. He seems way more concerned about his appearance in the public eye than doing/saying anything of real substance. I fear that he actually believes the things that come out of his mouth. I understand why mindless followers do, they have nothing else to guide them. If you took party out of the equation and just went on words, this man would be ostracized for the blatant lies he tells.

Now that I've finished that rant....
Assuming voter fraud is a rampant as some would like to believe, why do you think the only cases of voter fraud have to be by the left? Do you not think that people on the right may have done the same? If you don't think that's possible then you are either ignorant or willfully ignorant.

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posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Justoneman


Several hundred proven vote fraud.



Noncitizen immigrants may have cast 544 ballots illegally out of more than 93 million ballots in elections spanning 18 years in Pennsylvania, state election officials said Wednesday.


Why'd you not include the bolded portion in your statement?

Lol less than 600 votes out of over 93,000,000 in 18 years. But yea, let's spin that as "safe to say he probably won the popular vote." (I did the math just for poops and giggles: that's 0.00000585% lol)

Don't get me wrong, I think voter fraud is an issue that needs to be addressed. Just not an issue that needs to be addressed with selective quotation and spin.


In that one county. How many in all of the other counties?? Multiply that out to all blue states, and liberal areas in red ones, and the numbers really start to pile up. California alone would have millions.


Exactly and the lefties deflect and strawman their way to another loss.



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: Taggart

originally posted by: Justoneman
Pennsylvania

Several hundred proven vote fraud.

apnews.com...

We know this happened in California too and some people want to keep claiming DJT lost the popular vote. Well probably safe to say he didn't if you count only legal voters.


Voter fraud would have to be in the 3 million range for him to have won the 'popular' vote.
This article says a few hundred, only 2,999,800 more to go.



Only in sanctuary state california. He won the popular by over a million in the rest of the nation.



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: Justoneman

They "mistakenly" registered, then "mistakenly" voted as well?

What a crock!


Then mistakenly reported themselves?

More like a few token illegals who were used as example not to make the number suspiciously zero



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: Justoneman

Several hundred huh. Wow. Good for you.

When you get close to a million let us know and we'll get excited.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 12:03 AM
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originally posted by: Jefferton
So if there was mass voter fraud..

How did he win?



He almost didnt. Obviously they didnt pad their total with enough fakes. They were not prepared for many of the events which took place in the final month leading up to the election.

They knew Trump would have won in a fair and square election, they just didn't realize it would be by so much. They were shocked that such a large chunk of the populace had outright rejected their Marxist visions of sugar plums and candy apples...

Even though it meant trump who we know everyone hates and it was still 999999999999X better than the Marxist Utopia.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 12:06 AM
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a reply to: Jefferton

Very easy, We didn't vote for him, our electoral college did.

We voted for our local government, then they in turn vote by electoral process, which is normally decided by the majority of voters of that state.

Doesn't matter if a fraction voted for Jimmy Carter or David Bowie, just the majority would be who the electoral vote goes to.

So in MANY senses, you vote means Jack and Shight, and jack left town to chew bubble gum and kick ass, but ran outta both.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 12:11 AM
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Isn't it T&C that the initial post in a thread based on an article should use the title of the article, to wit?

Pennsylvania finds 544 possibly illegal ballots since 2000

544 possible illegal votes in eighteen years.

The fringe of the current right-wing in America lies at every opportunity to further divide us and delude the simple-minded. This must be stopped.

From the source article that OP falsely cherry-picked:



The illegal ballots were apparently cast by noncitizen immigrants who later reported themselves as having mistakenly registered, the department said. The figure could drop as the department continues to analyze information it gets from counties, a spokeswoman said later.


We must all begin to act together to end this kind of overt and intentional dishonesty whenever we see it here at ATS.
edit on 28-10-2017 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 12:37 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I would love to see how voter fraud would happen, if we all had to provide a tax return, social security card and birth certificate upon voting, instead of just a paper card.

I mean, ever wonder, why we need less to vote, than we do to goto college or get a job?



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Justoneman


Several hundred proven vote fraud.



Noncitizen immigrants may have cast 544 ballots illegally out of more than 93 million ballots in elections spanning 18 years in Pennsylvania, state election officials said Wednesday.


Why'd you not include the bolded portion in your statement?

Lol less than 600 votes out of over 93,000,000 in 18 years. But yea, let's spin that as "safe to say he probably won the popular vote." (I did the math just for poops and giggles: that's 0.00000585% lol)

Don't get me wrong, I think voter fraud is an issue that needs to be addressed. Just not an issue that needs to be addressed with selective quotation and spin.


In that one county. How many in all of the other counties?? Multiply that out to all blue states, and liberal areas in red ones, and the numbers really start to pile up. California alone would have millions.


Exactly and the lefties deflect and strawman their way to another loss.


The strawman would be repeatedly calling Pennsylvania a county and then building an argument from there.

Reading comprehension isn't a partisan thing.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: Justoneman
Several hundred you say!? Well that equals 3 million in my books. Ah good ol' American mathematics.

If Trump had won the popular vote you wouldn't care to look into to or even BELIEVE there was voter fraud. To anyone with half a brain it's obvious that your 'holier than thou' attitude is total BS.

Legal votes, lol that sh*t makes me laugh in a country that actively stops or doesn't allow people to vote. How about you stop taxation without representation and give ex-cons the right to vote before you b*tch about a few 100 illegal votes.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 12:59 PM
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the level of ignorance in this thread...


cast by noncitizen immigrants who later reported themselves


the records exist only for those who turned themselves in. If you're illegal and voting, I highly doubt you'll turn yourself in, same goes for legal residents and visa holders that fear losing their status. And what about those that don't understand they did something wrong? How about those doing it on purpose?

What this article is telling us is that voter fraud is possible, that it happens, but it says nothing about the actual numbers.
edit on 28-10-2017 by daniel_g because: edited



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 01:35 PM
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Once again, they play this out until it doesn't even matter anymore. This is how they keep getting away with it. We all knew this from the beginning, but you know how the news is. They drag things out until it doesn't do any good to arrest anyone...until next time, then they will do it all over again. Our government is a joke. No wonder the world laughs at us. The American people should have stormed the White House and Congress collectively a thousand times by now.



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