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Why the Dossier may be the most serious political scandal the US has ever seen.

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posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 07:41 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: dragonridr

Solid post... lol... Sarah Sanders would be proud...

Again, I'll stick with the MI6 agent, FBI, CIA, and NSA assessments...



Bringing her up brings up another point all evidence f russian collusion has been paid for by DNC seen estimates 6 million on just the dossier not counting crowdstrike who by the way was started by a russian. Fusion GPS worked for Russians so both these sources can be suspect. But we are expected to believe the DNC wouldnt influence an election you know like they did with sarah sanders father?

Right now nothing can be proved however it is definitely worth looking in to. And denying that is silly.




posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 07:44 PM
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Hey guys, Trump Supporters have a very important PSA:

Do not listen to the CIA, FBI, or NSA. Also don't listen to the U.S. media. Only listen to Great American President Trump and Russian media is okay too.



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

Dude whole sections of the dossier already debunked. I've yet to see one thing confirmed. It was put together by a political tabloid hatchet crew at the behest of Hillary a CONFIRMED TREASONOUS WAR CRIMINAL (who stood to face public execution if she lost to an outsider candidate and especially if they had massive public support)...

And your whole crutch is that OMG "the CIA" and "the NSA" and so on all all hate Trump (which I've already told you why), and WOAH some MI6 chump claims that debunked dossier is for reals, when who the F is he? Oh, an IC spook who probably has buddies that were / are down in Syria helping Al Qaeda carry out their terror campaign there.

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posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

Here's their motivation:



Trump: "Because you'd be in jail".

Tell a war criminal that and watch what happens... oh a dirty dossier.

What was McCain doing with the dossier? Oh, because he'd be in jail with her.
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posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: dragonridr


I don't understand why Democrats felt Hillary was such a dog candidate that they had go to break laws to help her.. They should have picked another candidate for President.



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Yeah it's all like ...Whoa! the CIA, NSA, and FBI all agree... and Hey! this MI6 agent with his 20 years experience and highly regarded... and Ehhh! Trump attacks all media that disagree with him.... and Ohhhh! The only person Trump didn't offend under any circumstances leading up to the election was Putin....

Yeah, dude, you're right... ignore all that. Just listen to Trump and only Trump and definitely not any members of the U.S. intelligence community, and definitely not any kind of reputable intelligence agent who authored a report on Trump... doesn't even matter what the FBI conclude-- we can prolly dismiss it all right now in advance.... Just listen to Sarah Sanders and Trump and and Kellyanne Conway and.... RT has some great reporting too.




posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie




Do not listen to the CIA, FBI, or NSA. Also don't listen to the U.S. media.


I thought that was a prerequisite for joining up to ATS.




Only listen to Great American President Trump and Russian media is okay too.


OR..or...we could read the actual documents and interviews where available.



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Wow, did the disinfo agents call in for backup?



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 07:57 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Grambler

I think you're spinning a yarn for an audience you know to be "less educated".

It's fairly obvious this narrative is meant to compete with the investigation of Trump's potential collusion with Russia.

The problem is, you don't have much, except your own creativity... which the only thing in your favor is the education level of your audience.

Sorry, bud, it's weak. You can do better.



I can be snarky, I admit.

But I honestly feel like I try to address the points you bring up.

You on the other hand completely ignore that, and just deflect and make comments about people intelligence.

I think you ought to be ashamed claiming people with an interest in this are less educated.



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 07:58 PM
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And now, the first charges have been filed by Mueller's grand jury, with an arrest expected on Monday...

www.cnn.com...



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: dragonridr

Solid post... lol... Sarah Sanders would be proud...

Again, I'll stick with the MI6 agent, FBI, CIA, and NSA assessments...



Bringing her up brings up another point all evidence f russian collusion has been paid for by DNC seen estimates 6 million on just the dossier not counting crowdstrike who by the way was started by a russian. Fusion GPS worked for Russians so both these sources can be suspect. But we are expected to believe the DNC wouldnt influence an election you know like they did with sarah sanders father?

Right now nothing can be proved however it is definitely worth looking in to. And denying that is silly.


Great post, though I don;t think Bernie is sarahs dad.



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 08:00 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: dragonridr


I don't understand why Democrats felt Hillary was such a dog candidate that they had go to break laws to help her.. They should have picked another candidate for President.



I was screaming that from the roof tops,but at the time i didnt know the fix was in. Had bernie been treated fairly he could have beaten Trump easily. And well frankly we wouldnt be inthis mess day after day Trump sayingsomthing stupid,



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 08:00 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Yeah it's all like ...Whoa! the CIA, NSA, and FBI all agree...



Wheres the lists of WHO?

Name names.

The alphabet agencies role in this world is the imperial domination of the effing planet. That's their job.

Well the FBI they're supposed to fight corruption, yet they havent shut down jack shia'ite in DC.

NSA spies on EVERYone, yet what have they contributed?

They're creatures of corruption, crony corporatism, war crminality, mass murder, overthrowing democratically elected nations across the globe.

That's what they do.

The MSM are their arbiTRAITORS of coverups for that system.

That's what they do.

So a candidate shows up saying he's going shut down all the corruption, work with Russia to kill ISIS / Al Qaeda (same thing) WHOM HILLARY CIA ETC ALL FUND AND HELP MURDER PEOPLE...

OF COURSE they're going to come out guns blazing against that candidate.

It's obligatory, because that's what they do. It's their job. It's their life. Like serial killers, it's their addiction. Ever watch the show Dexter? They are the "dark passengers" running this nation across planet earth we're a collective serial mass murderer and by supporting the worst of them, whom are CONFIRMED treasonous war criminals, they blood on their hands its on yours too.



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
And now, the first charges have been filed by Mueller's grand jury, with an arrest expected on Monday...

www.cnn.com...


We shall see I guess. I suspect Manafort will be charged with something eventually.

I say if any of them broke the law, they should be punished to the fullest extent, even if its trump or Hillary themselves.



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
And now, the first charges have been filed by Mueller's grand jury, with an arrest expected on Monday...

www.cnn.com...


Podesta for perjury?



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 08:10 PM
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a reply to: Grambler


I don't doubt you try to cover all your bases, but the problem is the motivation is too clear. You ignore so much and clamp onto this little narrative so hard... it's just obvious, dude. That's why you and others have to say ignore the FBI, NSA, CIA, MI6, --- ignore all of it.....

You attempt to Matrix-sculpt your own narrative into reality... but the problem is... it's NOT reality. Yours is nothing more than a conjured narrative meant to compete with the real elephant in the room... the FBI investigation into Trump's possible collusion with Russia.

You're not attempting to add to the big picture. You're attempting to change the focus of it.

The CIA, FBI, NSA, MI-6, FBI investigations, secret meetings, and whatever the FBI concludes.... Ignore all that, you say...
"Whatever they say, they're lying" is the defense used by guilty toddlers.

I'm too old, too educated, seen too much, to buy that sh*t.



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 08:15 PM
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What a bunch of hypocritical, intellectually dishonest posts from the Right.

The never trump GOP initiated this and team Hillary picked it up. The wiretapping originated with tenants at Trump tower not Trump or the campaign. Subsequently information was obtained and held onto by the FBI and the Obama administration. It was Chris Steele himself who went to NYT with the dossier.

Further and off topic Uranium One was entirely legal no matter what your take news tells you.

I really hate being put in a position to defend the bitch that waged an imbalanced campaign against Bernie but truth is truth and you lot need a strong freaking dose of it.



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie

That's why you and others have to say ignore the FBI, NSA, CIA, MI6, --- ignore all of it.....


Not beLIEving a thing they say has been my thing for over 12 years.

For 12 years SOLID though, as I always knew from that point they were lying about 9/11 amongst many other inter-related thrusts of discussion.

And now dig this, across this entire decade running they've been working with Al Qaeda helping them murder and behead countless thousands of people.

Meaning I was right about them all this time, like many others taking this position on this dossier case.

And you want me to believe them now just because you worship Obama Hillary and loathe Trump (for entirely hypocritical reasons no less) and would go to any length (just like they would) to make him suffer?

Get a grip man, seriously.




posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 08:27 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
What a bunch of hypocritical, intellectually dishonest posts from the Right.

The never trump GOP initiated this and team Hillary picked it up. The wiretapping originated with tenants at Trump tower not Trump or the campaign. Subsequently information was obtained and held onto by the FBI and the Obama administration. It was Chris Steele himself who went to NYT with the dossier.

Further and off topic Uranium One was entirely legal no matter what your take news tells you.

I really hate being put in a position to defend the bitch that waged an imbalanced campaign against Bernie but truth is truth and you lot need a strong freaking dose of it.


Perhaps before you call people intellectually dishonest, you may want to make sure you have your facts straight.

No steele wasnt brought on until the dems paid. Steele was the one who was paid to collude with Russia, and make the dossier.

Cnn articles said the dossier was used to help get Fisa warrants. As I said in the OP, I dont think this is proven, but if it is true it is horribly corrupt.

Steele is said to have went many places with the dossier, including the FBI. That does not address the DNC paying someone to collude with russians to find evidence of russian collusion, lying about paying for it, or the FBI possible paying Steele (as evidence has been posted) or stonewalling congressional subpoenas as to exactly what they used the dossier for.



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 08:30 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

Steele is said to have went many places with the dossier, including the FBI. That does not address the DNC paying someone to collude with russians to find evidence of russian collusion, lying about paying for it, or the FBI possible paying Steele (as evidence has been posted) or stonewalling congressional subpoenas as to exactly what they used the dossier for.


Sounds like campaign activism if I ever heard it.

But what motives can the left come up with to explain his actions? This is a foreigner after all.



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