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10 months in and the Trump Administration can't seem to win anything.

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posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 06:58 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm




Well, it kind of is that. Although we don't have proof that he actually did it, we only have him saying it. But grabbing women by the monkey and getting away with it is sexual assault. But like he said when you're rich and famous, he just said famous, you can do it without any problems.

To test that theory you're welcome to go and try it yourself with some women on the street and see if it works for you too. I don't think you'll get the same reaction though.


It's locker room talk. he clearly said "You can do anything", not "I can do anything". When he did admit to and brag about things, for instance kissing and hitting on someone, he said "I".


"And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything."




posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 06:58 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

This whole thing with him grabbing women was never my point to begin with ya know. That was just part of an example I tossed in with the others.

I'm not arguing that it alone disqualifies him as President or not. We argued that months ago anyway.

My entire point was about the reason men do that stuff is because of them abusing power not because of partisan politics. Somehow that has turned into Trump and Politics now once again. I'd like to stop going there personally and focus on the point about it being about Abuse of Power or just drop it all together.

The Monkey grabbing has been argued into beating a dead horse long ago and I really don't even care about that topic at this point.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

He said "I" about the tic tac kissing because that is in his mind his own exclusive move. He just grabs them and kisses them.

He said "you" for the monkey grabbing because he was talking to Billy Bush as if he could do it too because of his fame the same as Trump and I assume others in Hollywood tend to do.

That's how I understood it.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 07:33 PM
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You forgot how he was going to drain the swamp.

Still smells like Dagobah to me



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 07:39 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
Hate Hate Hate...Lose Lose Lose...Ha Ha Ha!

Man, the Trump hate flows in this one. This is not about just getting things done. It is about showing how things do NOT get done. If there is one person left in the US who thinks politicians in Washington right now are not almost all scumbags you need you head examined.

The Republicans have bitched and moaned for 10 years about wanting control back. 8 years of running on removing Obamacare. 8 years of blaming Obama for everything. Now, when he is gone and we control the House, Senate and Governships as well as adding a SCJ we should as a country be winning not according to Trump but according to those in office now and the past 8 years.

McCain? A scumbag. I don't care if he was a POW that was 50 years ago. His vote on Obamacare was a defining moment to me. It was the day that the true two party system died. Gone.

Now, there are sitting Republicans who are not running in 2018. Because it was not about the country it was about them and now they cannot get the kickbacks they would have under ANYONE but Trump.

The time is coming. The lies of the DNC are losing traction and the truth of what they did, as well as colluding with RINO's, is the biggest win so far for me.



Either way American citizens didn’t have a choice in this election.

This was Illuminati’s plan all along.
Everybody knows Hillary Clinton was the establishment’s candidate of choice.
Donald Trump is also a illuminati creation and actor.....
Thirty years ago members of the illuminates family saved Trump from bankruptcy and took him under their wing....The Illuminati have been working behind the scenes for decades creating the actors that played the roles.
To have both candidates operating under their interests whilst systematically pitting the entire nation against each other, creating the chaos they need to push their New World Order agenda closer to completion.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

Interesting facts, I actually was not aware of the demographics of Carrier jobs but it would've been nice to see more "worker" jobs saved. Either way, I think we will all agree that automation is going to put a lot more people out of jobs (including auto and coal workers, but also educators, doctors and many service jobs). I think the key here is getting training setup to transition these individuals to an IT/engineering/maintenance type track. Either way it's going to happen, so might as well prepare for it by training.

If he killed such a program, I think that is a giant mistake. However, one way or the other, such programs are going to be needed. We can continue putting automation off for a little while, but that genie has been out of the bottle far too long to be recalled now.

And NK, I was not aware they had gone down. However, I still maintain that a nuclear NK is not something we have to accept. There is always a military option, and cutting Kim off from his forces alone would be enough for major internal chaos to ensue. Once their god-king is proven to be a mere mortal, he loses a lot of respect from generals and other important societal figureheads.

Granted, Kim's replacement in NK could be worse. If that's the case, I suppose we'll have to kill them as well. Eliminating the country's military would be another option, leaving China to secure the territory and nuclear weapons. I have no problem with NK being annexed into China. Although we could reunify the peninsula under the SK banner, why bother? Simply eliminating Kim and his major military capabilities places the next move squarely in China's lap - unless they WANT U.S. influence directly on their border that is. I suspect they do not. I also suspect they would move quickly to prevent just that.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 07:57 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Southern Guardian

I think Trumps mind is starting to really slip. At this point, to the people around him it's just about corral and contain. While more people work on damage control.

I think most of D.C. knows it, half still support him because they believe they can manipulate him in some way, the other half is unnerved it's been allowed to go on this long. It won't last forever.
right! im glad they finally fixed the problem his vision , then all his falls and not being able to walk up down steps and sudden seizures and coughing fits he was having during the election,but i guess when you have enough money to have a doctor in you personal entourage u can pull of anything....oh wait that wasnt him.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm


My fault mojom, I misread the intent there


I also do not dispute that such actions (not speech alone, but action) makes someone a crappy human being. We have to remember that this IS Washington we're talking about, so there must be some degree of "crappyness."

To be fair, I was a huge Ben Carson supporter.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 08:13 PM
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a reply to: truthnlies 1980s, Donald Trump found himself in financial trouble as the real estate market in New York tanked. The three casinos in Atlantic City, like other Trump assets, were under threat from lenders. It was only with the assistance and assurance of Wilbur L. Ross that Trump was allowed to keep the casinos and rebuild his threatened empire.he is now Trump’s Secretary of Commerce.
Consider how Trump built his wealth – and who supported him.....



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

Pretty sure? Not confident? When you use the word asshole about people you should be certain of what you say. I wonder though...would you say that to a room full of Trump supporters? When they did not beat your ass and started asking you questions would you engage or would you just call them assholes again?

I am thinking you are too dumb for rationale thought and just go with the insults...



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 08:17 PM
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When did he say he did it without permission? Do we even know whose pussy he is talking about? You don't do you? I did not hear ANYTHING that comes close to rape or drugging woman. You know, some women like it when you do that....maybe you have been with the wrong chicks.

I am not shielding Trump. I am looking at the entire thing realistically and not trying to find something to pin on him.

Where are those accusers now?
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posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 08:19 PM
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When it comes to NK I'm not sure what influence we can really have. Those people have been so isolated in what they know and believe and have had an ongoing campaign of propaganda about America and the outside world for so long I don't know if you can change generations of programming like that without slowly letting those generations die off and focusing on the next ones who aren't programmed.

They also seem to be getting a great deal of intelligence and aid from other sources sympathetic to them and/or not friendly with us. Their technological advancement with nuke tech seemed to happen pretty smooth for a country that doesn't even have internet access or power half the time. Granted it's mostly just the people there that don't have it while the ruling class takes it for themselves, but still, they must be getting some major help from the outside in a big way.

It's almost like the only real option would be to just full on destroy them if it came down to us having to do something. Which of course comes with a massive amount of other problems as a result. But NK is like this crazy little enemy just isn't able to be reasoned with or bargained with or anything like any other normal place would be. It's become a cultural and personal issue with us that goes so deep and long we can either just stay away from each other or throw down once and for all.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

He said "I" about the tic tac kissing because that is in his mind his own exclusive move. He just grabs them and kisses them.

He said "you" for the monkey grabbing because he was talking to Billy Bush as if he could do it too because of his fame the same as Trump and I assume others in Hollywood tend to do.

That's how I understood it.


That’s how I understand it too. Saying that you can grab a pussy is not bragging about sexual assault. It’s a statement of fact.

Of course, the bow, the handshake and the kiss are all common forms of salutation.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 08:27 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
I did not hear ANYTHING that comes close to rape or drugging woman. You know, some women like when you do that....maybe you have been with the wrong chicks.


Honestly I'm tired of the whole topic and never wanted it to go there in the first place as that was never the point i was making.

I never said he drugged anyone either. But if you can read that part I quoted from your last post and not see a problem with it you may want to think about where your head is at. Even putting Rape Fantasies or Sex while intoxicated as a possible excuse for what you meant by saying that, do you really think that the problem is that I've been with the wrong chicks because they don't like being drugged or raped??? Does that sound right to you honestly???

So I'm just gonna drop this whole conversation for multiple reasons now. Mainly because I never wanted it to begin with.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 08:39 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

The kissing thing like you say isn't a big deal by itself IMO. Some cultures kiss each other as a custom or people hug when they meet. Personal contact to a degree is fine.

I think where it got creepy for many people was the context of the entire conversation was also a bit aggressive sexually toward women. You got him talking about trying to buy that married woman in the sack with furniture shopping, then the grabbing the monkey stuff too. So normally saying you like to just kiss them may not have been so bad, but along with the other stuff it starts sounding creepy.

By themselves each thing can be viewed as it's own isolated thing but when said together it sounds not so innocent at all. Then when Billy Bush tells that woman to give him a hug right after. I mean it's nothing, but in that context is how it rubs people the wrong way. Because you woulnd't normally know the personal thoughts of people when they do stuff like that.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

It took the very first comment to blame Hillary Clinton for Trump's muck ups. Seems to be the excuse for everything Trump fails in. What happened to personal responsibility? The most powerful man in office and we continue to blame the 2016 General election loser on Trump's failure as president.

How much worse can it get that that? Surely there's a better excuse. Surely.


These recent crimes and justice regarding uranium, emails, and fake dossiers are all I want. The dominoes are falling as we speak. Draining the “The Swamp” was #1 on my list. It is happening now. I am slowly becoming a very happy camper.

Clinton sold old America, along with Obama, Comey, Holder, Lynch, and a slew of others. Justice to all involved will be the biggest win for all of America. The corruption party will be over.
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posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 09:09 PM
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originally posted by: Assessor

originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

It took the very first comment to blame Hillary Clinton for Trump's muck ups. Seems to be the excuse for everything Trump fails in. What happened to personal responsibility? The most powerful man in office and we continue to blame the 2016 General election loser on Trump's failure as president.

How much worse can it get that that? Surely there's a better excuse. Surely.


These recent crimes and justice regarding uranium, emails, and fake dossiers are all I want. The dominoes are falling as we speak. Draining the “The Swamp” was #1 on my list. It is happening now. I am slowly becoming a very happy camper.

Clinton sold out America, along with Obama, Comey, Holder, Lynch, and a slew of others. Justice to all involved will be the biggest win for all of America. The corruption party will be over.
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posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 09:14 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

He said "I" about the tic tac kissing because that is in his mind his own exclusive move. He just grabs them and kisses them.

He said "you" for the monkey grabbing because he was talking to Billy Bush as if he could do it too because of his fame the same as Trump and I assume others in Hollywood tend to do.

That's how I understood it.


Saying that you can grab a pussy is not bragging about sexual assault. It’s a statement of fact.


Wow, the stuff you elect to defend...

Just so you know, grabbing a woman by the pussy is a sexual assault charge waiting to happen. There are many reasons a rich and powerful man may THINK he can just grab a woman by her pussy and even brag about it — but that is actually called sexual assault and gambling that your power and fame is enough to override consent.
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posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 09:19 PM
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Are you one of them people that think, when the guberment is not "legislating" that's a bad thing? What "law" do you need tomorrow, that didn't pass today? If anything they need to be "working" on removing "laws". Not adding more. That's basically what Trump ran on..draining the swamp. I personally don't care if he doesn't get one "law" passed. As long as he ties them up long enough for four years that they can't pass another law. We don't see enough time between "laws" as it is, to know if they even work. So what, if he does nothing? And "they're" to busy opposing that? Doesn't hurt my feelings one bit!



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 09:21 PM
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You sound like a rich and powerful woman.




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