Bernie Betrays Democrats, Announces Reelection Run As An Independent

a reply to: mOjOm

Also to many Republicans dismay.

Where exactly is the double standard?

a reply to: JinMI

The double standard would be supporting Trump for doing the same.

a reply to: mOjOm

Trump used the popularity of his platform to effectively bend the will of the GOP to his backing. That's not the same as what happened with Bernie, although maybe it should have.

a reply to: JinMI

Even if that was true that doesn't change anything though. It just means that the RNC is corrupt and weak. The DNC is apparently just corrupt.

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: eluryh22

It was supposed to be a done deal that Hilary was going to win also. Didn't happen though did it.

Talking about two different things.

I was talking about the D primaries

General Election is a different animal

a reply to: eluryh22

I know. My point is that Done Deals aren't always as Done as we think.

a reply to: mOjOm

And Sanders knew that. That is why he threw his support to Clinton. He knew what a disaster a Trump presidency would be and made a judgment call. He knew that liberals would have to come out in force and all vote for Clinton rather than an independent run focused on him. He knew this and had to chew on his own tongue to do it. To many liberals let him down and did not take his advice and stayed home and did not vote. Damn liberals.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I agree with you completely!!!

You mean like how Bernie has always done?

LOL

More alarmist crap from the right-wingers. Bernie only ran as a Dem for the POTUS election. He's running for his seat in congress again...and again (like he has done in the past) he's doing it as an independent.

Why this is "shocking" is beyond me. It was more "shocking" for him to run as a Democrat during the presidential race.

a reply to: Kettu

Well that makes this a total non story then.

I thought they meant he was going to run for Pres. again as an Independent.

Just running for his seat again as an Independent is how it's always been.

Damn. Can't trust anyone on the right to make a thread about anything that isn't spun as propaganda.

a reply to: infolurker

The Salon article is a bit of a mess with the writer going all around the houses.

He's one of those people who believes politicians cannot change their minds without being deceitful or flip-flopping. It's usually a red flag for hypocrisy because the same people are always quick to explain when their own candidate changes their position. One minute he's saying it was inexcusable for DNC to screw Sanders over and then he's literally excusing them in the next sentence. The writer is calling it a 'betrayal' of the Dems because he's clearly a Party man.

Just because the DNC was wrong for rigging the primaries against Sanders doesn't mean Sanders is right today for not acting in good faith toward the Democratic Party.

The writer seriously expects Sanders to stick with the Dems?! Another way of looking at it is Sanders got third degree burns from the Dems and has learned his lesson. Or it could be said he 'betrayed' his own values when he threw in with the Dems and has now returned to his core beliefs.

The writer should be asking his readers where the next Dem candidate is coming from? He might suggest the Dems put their own house in order. Otherwise he's just a partisan political hack who's got used to the stench.

a reply to: mOjOm

Noooooo!

LOL.

This was up on Reddit a few days ago and it was quickly taken apart and everyone moved on, scratching their heads and wondering why it was being toted like some kind of big news story.

It was theorized by a few that conservative spin masters are trying to sow seeds of despair and discord among progressives. Basically a demoralizing campaign to promote the idea that the DNC/Democrats and progressives are in dissaray ... and try to stoke an inter-party grudge match.

a reply to: Kettu

So what's the "Noooo" for then???

I'm not sure I get what you're getting at.

Was that just sarcasm???

a reply to: infolurker

He must want a yacht/boat to go along with his lake house...

Whats funny is that you people ar ebuying Bernie is still independent. he is playing you all for suckers again.

a reply to: jhn7537

Oh yeah. The failed theory about him getting paid off to lose and he bought a house with that money, right???? A classic Conspiracy Theory dreamed up by the Right Wing Hacks.

They sold a house they already had and bought the new one with the money.

Nobody paid him off. This has been known for a while by anyone who wants to know the truth and has 5 minutes to look it up.

So what's your excuse??

a reply to: yuppa

He's been an Independent. He only changed over for the Presidential race.

a reply to: infolurker

infolurker,

Bernie Sanders got SCREWED by the DNC, during the primary cycle of the last election in the U.S.

Furthermore, its probably stating the obvious, but just in case it has escaped the article writers notice, many people who voted Democrat in the last election, did not do so because they are or believe in the Democrat Party, and it could be argued that those who DID vote Dem because they believe in the party itself, were deluded in doing so.

My concern with the position taken in the article which you have linked us to, is that it fails entirely to take account of the following:

Democrat politicians, during the Obama presidency, permitted many things which ought not have been permitted, with regard to foreign policy, military operations and actions, and so on. Democrat politicians like Hillary Clinton, for example, did many things which both on the face of it, and indeed in specific terms, were utterly ghastly, and go against the grassroots beliefs of the people who voted for them. Not only did they do things with which those who voted for them do not agree, but in the case of Clinton's behaviour as Secretary of State, including many moral and performance failures, deposit upon the party of which she, and other malfunctional elements, are a part, a burden of blame which RIGHTLY belongs across their shoulders.

The party nature of politics in the developed world, but particularly in the United States, and the sheer abundance of corporate interests held by members of those parties, is one of the primary drivers of governmental failure, with regard to its prime task, that being to represent the needs, ideals, and the motivations of the people in the country it holds power in. Yet, for successive administrations, regardless of party in power or the alignment of a given President, governments have NOT been representing the interests, beliefs, or indeed standing up for the well being of citizens, when making crucial decisions about important matters. Money is always found for war, or for a bailout of major corporate entities. But the moment the people themselves require assistance, the cupboard is bare, there is no more money, the debt ceiling is a problem. There is always money to spend on dark projects, projects which steal the liberty of the innocent, invade the privacy of all, to no benefit to the security of the nation, but when the people cannot pay their ever increasing bills, as a result of a real terms wage collapse, there are no routes by which their government might assist them in any long term effective manner.

Between the fact that many politicans on both sides of the political divide are owned by large, corporate entities, many of which have connections to the MIC, among other hideous entities, and the fact that party loyalty, tribalism does not aid a person in respecting or representing the people of a country, you can clearly see why it is that Bernie, a man who has spent his entire career doing his best to ACTUALLY represent the beliefs of the people who voted for him in his various roles, a man who believes that politics is supposed to be for the people and by the people, not for the corporations and by the corporations, has decided to do his thing, his way.

The idea that he owes the Democrats any good faith at all, is frankly insane. He does not. He owes them nothing but contempt, and their actions toward him proved that, not just to him, but to many people who were dead set to vote Democrat if it meant voting Bernie, but were turned away when he was unceremoniously dumped out of the electoral race, due to shenanigans on the DNCs part. There are people who voted Trump, purely because the DNC made them so unable to trust either the party or their candidate, that they would rather throw down a Trump vote and swallow the vomit that is their natural response to doing so, than vote for Clinton at all, leave alone on the basis that they could have had Bernie instead, if the DNC had not been totally underhanded in their dealings.

If they were willing to disenfranchise all the voters who wanted Bernie in the manner which they went ahead and did (because if you believe they were impartial throughout the primary process, then you need to drink some coffee, take some pro plus, and wake up a bit), then imagine what they would have done IN power?!

Its absolute idiocy to expect either Bernie, or his supporters, to have to do with the DNC after the DNC basically handed Trump the victory by default.

Old White Guy so e doesn't stand a chance.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: infolurker

Bernies credibility was lost when he sided with HRC and the corrupt DNC. I don't think I'm the only one who views him in this light.

agreed plus there was that sketchy email that was leaked which suggested a pre approved agreement between hillary campaign and bernies campaign.

once he saw the corrupted hillary rigging the dnc election by sabotaging his campaign and cheating with the MSM he should have kept his integrity and not supported her or anybof the above. he pissed all over his message of anti corruption the minute he endorsed her .

after what the dnc ,Hillary, and the msm did to him i cant blame him for running independent , but its a little to late. he had his opportunity to expise the dnc corruption but he chose to fall into line with the corrupted system.