Leaked Las Vegas SWAT Audio Indicates Police Gunned Down Stephen Paddock in Hotel

For the sake of preserving America's collective sanity, I'm going to assume that this thread is based on a FAKE recording.

You would think someone would have heard the windows being broken out and the glass falling to the ground below. That had to have made a loud enough noise for anyone in the lower floors to hear and anyone who would have been outside in the approximate area of where the glass would have crashed.

It just doesn't make sense to me, what is a shooting like this accomplishing? It's not like they're pointing fingers at terrorists and using this mass shooting to justify sending troops overseas like they did with Iraq. I would think they would have immediately blamed it on somebody, (Like Kim Jong Un of North Korea).

I don't know, maybe I'm missing something here, I just don't see this as a conspiracy.

They autopsy will show one way or the other conclusively until then its just speculation

also why lie? If SWAT took that lunatic out then why not take credit. I'm shocked he went out without a firefight anyway

Here is the link Video page

Zebra 20 also says, “They were shooting from...” Of course, he’s likely just going by seeing two broken windows.

I don't know, i seriously doubt we will ever know the truth, just like the "multiple shootings " at other casinos that was reported live when all of this was going down. It's a total headf $#@. I belive the sheriff had to have been told to basicly watch his back cause that first night compared to now, total different personality, he was strong, composed, etc. And I DO NOT attribute his change to just normal drain, it's fear......


I was just in Vegas this weekend, and when i drive past Mandalay first thing I thought of is wow that's really far away. I know I'm not an expert and I know trajectory is probably really far, duh, but i thought it was far. The stage is still up, there were about 5 cops stationed around the stage and other areas around outside the concert location down Las Vegas blvd. Even stationed at the gas station on the corner. Saw like 3-4 people trying to walk by and cops were telling them to jaywalk across lad vegas Blvd to go on the other side of the street as to not walk by it. Any other timr you try to jaywalk, you're getting a ticket. They don't want anyone close. Saw #vegas strong Everywhere, on every ambulance, people wearing shirts, banners up everywhere, to me it was really bizarre, almost like a marketing gimmick.

originally posted by: norhoc

He says they fired shots , that does not mean they fired the kill shot they probably fired upon entering then realized he was dead from the self inflicted wound.I don't hear anything about swat shooting him.

Except the officers first on the scene claim no shots were fired because he was obviously dead. This came up when someone floated the theory that the "suicide pistol" was so far away from him because SWAT kicked it out of his hand (they didn't).

Also, I've seen someone say that if you look at the floor plan it's apparent that Paddock could have been shot through the door. If he could have been shot through the door then he sure as hell could have been shot by the first officer through the door after the breach.

The only theory I've come up with for the cover up of these facts and the OS "suicide" plot is that, for whatever reason, Paddock was meant to come out of this alive, his death threw a spanner in the works and this is part of the damage control.

The exact why of it all? Pfft, your guess is as good as mine...

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: norhoc

He says they fired shots , that does not mean they fired the kill shot they probably fired upon entering then realized he was dead from the self inflicted wound.I don't hear anything about swat shooting him.

Except the officers first on the scene claim no shots were fired because he was obviously dead. This came up when someone floated the theory that the "suicide pistol" was so far away from him because SWAT kicked it out of his hand (they didn't).

Also, I've seen someone say that if you look at the floor plan it's apparent that Paddock could have been shot through the door. If he could have been shot through the door then he sure as hell could have been shot by the first officer through the door after the breach.

The only theory I've come up with for the cover up of these facts and the OS "suicide" plot is that, for whatever reason, Paddock was meant to come out of this alive, his death threw a spanner in the works and this is part of the damage control.

The exact why of it all? Pfft, your guess is as good as mine...

If Paddock was some kind of secret government agent, then it's possible he wasn't meant to be found at all.

Whatever happened, it's become apparent that there was some kind of secret plan by the feds that went totally off the rails, and now they're improvising a cover-up.

Look....

Honestly, If I was breaching a room with these circumstances in play, I would also probably empty a clip into the room before I entered.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gothmog
Yep , I bet several shots were fired by police officers into the room. Till they realized he had already assumed room temperature.

Not that they should have done it that way, but yes, it is possible.

The big story would be that shots were fired in the room by LE personnel..... and subsequently lied about. Not only lied about, but kept hidden by almost everyone that was there, listening to that radio frequency or that listened to the recording.

Why lie about it and conceal it?

Why lie?
What if it was the police that put 200 rounds through the door?
Makes for a sloppy entry and chance for innocent casualties.
Maybe they snaked a camera under the door and saw he was beyond it so they unloaded through the door first.

Agreed that they might be covering their own asses.... but as public servants, their job is not to cover their butts. The public deserves the truth, especially if their SWAT team is deciding to shoot through doors indiscriminately in a hotel full of people. SWAT teams are called upon just for the purpose of ending a threat in the safest way possible, not to do it in the most dangerous way.

This is just more indication that they are hiding something.

At first, reports were, and I think even Lombardo said it that night, that LE had shot and killed the suspect. The local news definitely reported that. Then they say no, he was already dead from a self-inflicted gunshot.

The 70 minutes it took them to breach the room: what the hell? First they told us that they took so long because they "hadn't heard any shots for a while so they figured they would clear the floor." What the hell is that? They risk more deaths at the concert on an assumption? As far as they knew, he could have continued pumping bullets into the crowd at any time. Seems reckless to me, for them to assume he was done shooting.

I can't remember the other reason they said they waited so long to breach the room, but they changed their story on that too. I'll go back and find it somewhere.

Then there is the whole Campos issue and their chsnging if that narrative THREE times.

CLEARLY, there is something about that 70 minutes, about the finding of his room, that they don't want us to know. Whatever happened, it's not what they've told us.

i have this question in my mind that i cant seem to have an answer for it, does anyone know if there was an emergency exit near that room, you know what i mean by asking this question

originally posted by: Dr UAE
i have this question in my mind that i cant seem to have an answer for it, does anyone know if there was an emergency exit near that room, you know what i mean by asking this question

There is, but they claim it was sealed shut by Paddock.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: norhoc
a reply to: xuenchen


He says they fired shots , that does not mean they fired the kill shot they probably fired upon entering then realized he was dead from the self inflicted wound.I don't hear anything about swat shooting him.

Well we heard the edited police call versions before.

Now we hear this version.

What's the next extended version I wonder.

The Directors cut...and
Deluxe anniversary edition

a reply to: KansasGirl

HMMMM could it be thats how long it took them to stage the scene, brief, get the need-to-know people on board with the story, etc?

originally posted by: olaru12
The dead man wasn't Paddock.

Yes you are correct sir!!!

From what I'm hearing it was Paddington Bear not Stephen Paddock. Easily to confuse the two though, I realize that.

originally posted by: WeRpeons
You would think someone would have heard the windows being broken out and the glass falling to the ground below. That had to have made a loud enough noise for anyone in the lower floors to hear and anyone who would have been outside in the approximate area of where the glass would have crashed.

It just doesn't make sense to me, what is a shooting like this accomplishing? It's not like they're pointing fingers at terrorists and using this mass shooting to justify sending troops overseas like they did with Iraq. I would think they would have immediately blamed it on somebody, (Like Kim Jong Un of North Korea).

I don't know, maybe I'm missing something here, I just don't see this as a conspiracy.

We were literally right outside and nearly right under the shooters hotel room. The thing is the glass could have broke while we were taking our selfie. This is Vegas and where we were there was traffic noise, honking etc, noise from the concert and just being in Vegas it is easy to be distracted the sights and noises. We heard the first part of the shooting assumed it was noise from the concert and casually walked back inside.

This is not like a quieter town it is Vegas baby and a lot could be going on without any attention...

a reply to: Gothmog



Yeah I saw the pictures of him, it was pretty gross. He shot himself through the roof of his mouth, His eyes are still intact.

a reply to: Boadicea

I think Campos was shot by police. I did hear from the police scanner officer needed medical care.

I also think Paddock knew he wasn't coming out of that room alive, because he sent girlfriend home and told her to buy a house.

Other than that we know nothing and I am not sure of the above...except people are dead.

a reply to: judydawg

At this point, anything is possible.

Since reading about a convoy of beefed up black pickups congregating at the Hooters parking garage BEFORE the shooting began, I am more and more inclined to believe that the Feds knew something was about to go down before it happened. In which case they no doubt were first on scene -- before anyone else even knew there was a problem. Which also makes me wonder if Campos and maintenance dude aren't in fact Federal agents themselves. And they were there either as part of an ongoing operation with "Paddock," or were sent in once the Feds knew it was going sideways.

In terms of records and documentation, this security guard is a phantom. The only security guard named Jesus Campos registered with the state of Nevada lives in California and is employed by CSC, an independent security company. There is no official record of Jesus Campos working for either Mandalay Bay or MGM. There is only an anonymous leak to a hitherto unknown citizen investigator... which I find very suspect for several reasons.

But, of course, this is all to say that we know pretty much nothing and all we have are best guesses.

originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: Gothmog



Yeah I saw the pictures of him, it was pretty gross. He shot himself through the roof of his mouth, His eyes are still intact.

If I recall correctly so are his teeth, not sure how he managed that with a pistol going off in his mouth, his teeth should be smashed.