Clinton and DNC Paid For Research That Led To Russian Dossier

a reply to: bastion

None of the allegations have proven to be correct.

When is your focus going to switch to reality?... That the DNC paid a foreign agent to work with Russia to dig up dirt on a political opponent, and the media publishing unverified claims to the world to try and influence an election...

As for your 'verifications' - even the anti-Trump CNN had to admit:

For the first time, US investigators say they have corroborated some of the communications detailed in a 35-page dossier compiled by a former British intelligence agent, multiple current and former US law enforcement and intelligence officials tell CNN. As CNN first reported, then-President-elect Donald Trump and President Barack Obama were briefed on the existence of the dossier prior to Trump's inauguration. None of the newly learned information relates to the salacious allegations in the dossier. Rather it relates to conversations between foreign nationals.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: UKTruth

So in your opinion, it is impossible to enter Italy on one passport and then travel through the Schengen countries under an assumed name, possibly using Israeli or simply counterfeit passports where necessary?

Of course, it is possible, but a possibility is NOT verification - obviously.

Anyhow the thread is about Hillary's and the DNC collusion with foreign intelligence (including Russian), now proven. For some reason - I wonder why - the reaction from the left is 'but, but, but...Trump.... the dossier'.

Anti-Trumpers opened this can of worms - I hope you enjoy eating them.

a reply to: UKTruth

No I already got the talking points on another thread.

You are allowed to pay for And collude with Russia as long as you pay an American company to do it for you and it can't be proven you had INTENT to use Russian sources.

You can't make this stuff up.

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: bastion

None of the allegations have proven to be correct.

When is your focus going to switch to reality?... That the DNC paid a foreign agent to work with Russia to dig up dirt on a political opponent, and the media publishing unverified claims to the world to try and influence an election...

As for your 'verifications' - even the anti-Trump CNN had to admit:

For the first time, US investigators say they have corroborated some of the communications detailed in a 35-page dossier compiled by a former British intelligence agent, multiple current and former US law enforcement and intelligence officials tell CNN. As CNN first reported, then-President-elect Donald Trump and President Barack Obama were briefed on the existence of the dossier prior to Trump's inauguration. None of the newly learned information relates to the salacious allegations in the dossier. Rather it relates to conversations between foreign nationals.

A) He wasn't a foreign agent

B) What does CNN have to do with anything? CIA, FBI, NSA, DOHS, Intel and Foreign Affairs Committees, admissions by Trump campaign staff, legal cases are what I consider verifications, not an outdated piece by a news org with little journalistic integrity.

C) There's no evidence that either Rep or Dems were aware that an ex UK intel agent was working with sources who are claimed to have been ex Russian intel when they commissioned the report. It may sound like a minor detail but it's the difference between plausible deniability and going to jail, it could easilly have been used as a front for both the UK and Russia to influence the election - in the unlikely event it wasn't the US got incredibly lucky.

a reply to: bastion

Fusion GPS worked as a foreign agent for the Russian govt to push the repeal of the Magnitsky Act.
They appear to the be the go-to scumbags for politicians looking to use foreign and domestic services to smear opponents.

As for CNN. I am merely pointing out that none of the salacious material at all from the dossier has been verified, even according to the most warped anti-Trumpers out there. Only the truly desperate are still clinging to the dossier as a means to overturn an election. It's still on you to prove anything salacious in the dossier has been verified to back up your claim, which you have failed to do at every turn.

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: UKTruth

No I already got the talking points on another thread.

You are allowed to pay for And collude with Russia as long as you pay an American company to do it for you and it can't be proven you had INTENT to use Russian sources.

You can't make this stuff up.

Agreed, but funny nonetheless to witness the mental gymnastics of the anti-Trump brigade.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: UKTruth

No I already got the talking points on another thread.

You are allowed to pay for And collude with Russia as long as you pay an American company to do it for you and it can't be proven you had INTENT to use Russian sources.

You can't make this stuff up.

Agreed, but funny nonetheless to witness the mental gymnastics of the anti-Trump brigade.

Pssst.... content of the report..... credible source.... FBI investigating....

a reply to: UKTruth

At this point, it is the pro-Trump forces who are clinging to the dossier as a means of deflecting from the known collusion of the Trump campaign with a hostile foreign government. The Democrats never deployed the dossier during the election, therefore it had zero impact. The Russian Troll Army was - and is - very active in maintaining support for Trump, despite his well known public record of incompetence, dishonesty, and mental illness.

a reply to: DJW001

Do you really believe what you just posted?

1) Suspected collusion is not known collusion
2) It was deployed before the election, to both the media and intelligence. Neither took it seriously.
3) The Russian troll army plays both sides, or did you miss the news stories about the fake black activists accounts?
Source
4) Incompetent? Elaborate.

a reply to: raymundoko

1) Suspected collusion is not known collusion

Known collusion:

The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

Got it? It was a set up, obviously, but Donnie fell for it.

2) It was deployed before the election, to both the media and intelligence. Neither took it seriously.

Then it was not deployed properly. It certainly had no effect on the election.

3) The Russian troll army plays both sides, or did you miss the news stories about the fake black activists accounts?
Source

Correct. Russia played both sides, and the Steele dossier is an example of their trying to set up up the Democrats. Notice how it has gotten twisted by trolls to make hiring a third party to gather dirt, which is legal, somehow equivalent to attempting to commit treason. Thank you for agreeing that the Russians have a troll army and that it was playing both sides.

4) Incompetent? Elaborate.

Setting aside his numerous business failures, his track record in office is abysmal. Health care? Nada. Tax reform? Nada. Getting Mexico to lay for the wall? Don't make me laugh. He has managed to undo decades of international negotiations that resulted in trade deals designed to benefit the United States both economically and politically.

a reply to: DJW001

No collusion happened at that meeting...so thanks for confirming there is no known collusion. Just suspected at this point

I thought you might be referring to his buisness history. Only someone not familiar with business would think he was incompetent. He's quite the opposite. A bad President? Sure. Incompetent? No.

Edit: If you know it plays both sides how come I've never seen you say as much? You seem very one sided.

a reply to: DJW001

Sounds like a Clinton crafted excuse for when she gets
had, which just happened.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: soberbacchus

If the Clinton campaign knew about it, would have been mentioned in the leaked Podesta emails.

Really? Apparently not.

Because she now admits she funded it.

Re: Clinton and DNC Paid For Research That Led To Russian Dossier

Thanks to Donna B., we now know Clinton and the DNC are one in the same.

ALSO:
Marc Elias, the lawyer that brokered Hillary's unethical rigging of the DNC, is the SAME lawyer who secretly financed the Fusion GPS 'Trump Dossier' for Hillary.

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: soberbacchus

If the Clinton campaign knew about it, would have been mentioned in the leaked Podesta emails.

Really? Apparently not.

Because she now admits she funded it.

Really? Where?

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: soberbacchus

If the Clinton campaign knew about it, would have been mentioned in the leaked Podesta emails.

Really? Apparently not.

Because she now admits she funded it.

Really? Where?

You should really keep up if you plan to discuss the topic. She even lies saying the dossier was funded by a republican donor. This is a blatant lie since the dossier wasnt created until after her campaign paid for it.

www.nydailynews.com...

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: DJW001

Sounds like a Clinton crafted excuse for when she gets
had, which just happened.

The ATS Clinton Clean-up Crew is out in force since Donna Brazile's admission that Hillary rigged the DNC and the fact that Hillary commissioned the fake dossier.